Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
| [POLITICS] State Finally Does something good for the people
A bill that would make Connecticut the only state requiring large employers to offer paid sick days to their workers has been endorsed by the state House of Representatives.
The House voted 88-58 after nine hours of debate Thursday on the measure, which is similar to measures that lawmakers considered in past years but did not adopt.
»www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/05/···176.html |
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MrFixitSC
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Moncks Corner, SC | 9 hours of debate on this when they have mere days to approve a budget, time management is not one of their strong suits.. |
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harlenm
join:2002-09-02
Shelton, CT
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How is this good? When businesses can not afford to pay for vacation time, and they lay off employees to make up the difference, will you still be for it?
Businesses are closing left and right, everyone is leaving the state, and now you are celebrating more costs on these businesses that are struggling to survive?
I guess your username is appropriate. |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
1 edit | In Canada everyone is guaranteed 12 sick days and 3 weeks vacation, and their economy is doing better than us.
The boo hoo economics of 5 sick days for people don't make sense. |
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harlenm
join:2002-09-02
Shelton, CT | reply to Kommie
If you have 100 employees making minimum wage, this law will cost a business $32,000 per year.
That is a lot of money, and can make or break a business. |
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pandora
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This adds cost to doing business in our state. Though as it affects companies that employ over 50 it may be a non issue as most probably provide vacation and sick time already.
People often like to compare the U.S. to Canada, Europe, even Mexico. Claiming on alternate occasions that one of them is somehow superior. Yet the migration is from Canada, Europe and Mexico to the U.S.
I recently had a discussion with a former Mexican who was telling me how beautiful, inexpensive his former homeland was compared to America. Sigh ...
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT | reply to harlenm
If a company with 100 employees cant afford the price of a new car a year, they deserve to be out of buisness!! |
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Kommie
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East Haven, CT
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said by pandora  :People often like to compare the U.S. to Canada, Europe, even Mexico. Claiming on alternate occasions that one of them is somehow superior. Yet the migration is from Canada, Europe and Mexico to the U.S. Europeans stopped coming. 12% of Green Cards are given to Europeans. Think about it when is the last time you met a Danish, Swedish, or White French Immigrant?
In European Union they have 31 Sick Days, a Minimum of 20 Vacation days, and somehow they have small companies staying afloat as well as the large ones. (IKEA.STOPandShop,Nestle,Unilever,etc..)
I don't buy the argument that 5 measly sick days for people will affect the economy. |
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pandora
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|  said by Kommie :Think about it when is the last time you met a Danish, Swedish, or White French Immigrant? Yesterday.
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While I like the thought of people being taken care of by their employers, legislation that increases costs to business in CT will only serve to drive even more businesses out of state, and prevent even more from coming here. Don't forget the exodus of UPS & Stanley for starters. The "state" stood by boppin' their baloneys while the two companies spent millions to leave, and thereby saved themselves money. Very little to nothing has improved since.
We had two CT tax audits in the last years of our little CT business. The first CT auditor shows up in a brand new Mercedes station wagon, and the 2nd in a brand new Lexus. At the time, I was driving a 12 year old mini van. If that were a movie, it might be funny. It wasn't and it isn't. Working xx hours per week to feed the state's number one industry - state employees and bureaucrats - was just two more nails in the coffin that drove us to close up. |
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harlenm
join:2002-09-02
Shelton, CT
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said by Kommie :If a company with 100 employees cant afford the price of a new car a year, they deserve to be out of buisness!! Seriously. If I company is struggling, your best solution for them is to increase their fees in order to put them out of business? Wow, way to kill the American dream. That is one of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard in my entire life. |
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Kommie
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East Haven, CT | George Carlin: "It's Called the American Dream Because You Have to Be Asleep To Believe It" |
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harlenm
join:2002-09-02
Shelton, CT | reply to Kommie
I'm not even going to respond to you. You obviously have no idea what it's like to run a business, and how much we are taxed to death everyday.
Just take more money from the hardworking and give it to the lazy. |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
| said by harlenm :I'm not even going to respond to you. You obviously have no idea what it's like to run a business, and how much we are taxed to death everyday. Hardworking? Heh, no one works harder then workers and they are not even alowed ot get sick. |
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said by Kommie :I don't buy the argument that 5 measly sick days for people will affect the economy. What about the fact that it's just plain immoral for the government to tell businesses how to run their business? |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
| said by disconnected :said by Kommie :I don't buy the argument that 5 measly sick days for people will affect the economy. What about the fact that it's just plain immoral for the government to tell businesses how to run their business? Then we would still have child labor. Forget about the 40 hour work week. No need for OSHA.
Goverment is supposed to be on the peoples side. It immoral for the goverment to not step in and stop explotation. |
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gregamy
join:2003-05-22
Middletown, CT
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'Shock And Awe' Statism
By George Will
Epiphanies are a dime a dozen among congressional Democrats as they discover urgent new reasons to experience the almost erotic pleasure of commandeering other people's money. For example, freshman Rep. Alan Grayson, a Florida Democrat whose district includes Disney World, was recently there and was inspired.
The world, he realized, would be a sweeter place if Congress mandated that all companies with 100 or more employees provide a week of paid vacation to those who work at least 25 hours a week. After three years, they would be entitled to two weeks, and companies with more than 50 employees would have to start providing a paid vacation week. Grayson would not mandate that paid vacations be spent at Disney World...
»www.realclearpolitics.com/articl···758.html |
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P Ness
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clubs: | i'd just factor in the cost into my employees raise...or lack of one for 3 years. |
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Kommie
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East Haven, CT
1 edit | said by P Ness :i'd just factor in the cost into my employees raise...or lack of one for 3 years. With the Employee Free Choice Act, I hope your employees unionize on you  |
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pandora
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| said by Kommie :With the Employee Free Choice Act, I hope your employees unionize on you It's not really free choice. For consumers if the act gets passed, we will see higher prices and small companies shutting down.
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