exocets_girl
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| Women's Concealed Carry
Just got a Glock 23 for my birthday from my husband... At the end of the summer I will be getting my concealed carry permit. I'm starting to look into my options when it comes to carrying.
Here is my situation: I'm young and small-- 5'2" and 100 lbs. Between my petite frame and the fact that I do like to be relatively fashionable, my clothes are not entirely forgiving when it comes to concealing a weapon.
I'm not at all opposed to carrying on my person, in fact, it's quite appealing to me. I know it's probably the best/safest option... however, let's face it, there are DEFINITELY times where it will be literally impossible to carry on-body.
Any suggestions for both on-body holsters specifically designed for women as well was CCW purses? Any carrying women out there who can offer some suggestions?
Thanks! 
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tim_k
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1 edit | There are fanny packs mainly designed for cc. »www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0034830227754a.shtml
There are tactical jeans that have an inside pocket for your handgun. »www.gearboxsales.com/content-pro···ans.html
and »www.nrastore.com/nra/Product.asp···SS%20691 but not very stylish.
More options:
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»www.coronadoleather.com/default.···n=696973
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Mr Neutron
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said by exocets_girl  :I'm not at all opposed to carrying on my person, in fact, it's quite appealing to me. I know it's probably the best/safest option... however, let's face it, there are DEFINITELY times where it will be literally impossible to carry on-body. Can I be honest here? I thought the whole point to women getting married was so they could get their husbands to carry their stuff around for them.
Since there are, as you say, times where it will be impossible to carry the weapon on-body, now's the time to get him used to carrying it around for you. That way, there's no fumbling in a concealed pocket or purse: you just hold out your hand, your husband slaps the gun into it, and the miscreant can then make up his/her mind as to whether or not they want to find something else to do.
Problem solved! 
(I'm afraid tim_k's the one with all the practical suggestions.)
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SmackWeasel
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You should replace the Glock for a more reliable revolver*
Simi-auto's are to be hand held on the ready, or as back-up for a revolver.
You've probably never encountered a situation that calls for gun play. Remember once you pull it on someone, it's a do or die situation. Would you be able to retrieve the glock, cock it, aim and fire? What about the safety? Will you remember if it's engaged or not? It would be a bummer if the perp snatched it away from you as you fumbled with it.
Also alot of people get hurt thinking an auto is empty after removing the clip only to find one round still chambered...ouch!
*Smith & Wesson 38 special featherweight for example. All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about.
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Dodge
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at 5'2" and 100lbs, you have a pretty good chance of getting shot with your own gun after it's taken away from you. I am assuming you have it for defense, so if someone attacks you, you will have to get enough room to pull the gun, aim and shoot. Being so tiny I honestly don't see you wrigling free enough to effectively use a firearm. |
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Tuxified
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Congrats!
I was going to post some links to ladies concealment bags, but tim_k gave some excellent ones above in his post.
Pay no attention to the carry critics and firearm ignorant here at BBR,
Glock firearms are fine weapons, just as safe, fast to deploy and easy to operate as any other... My only advice is to Practice, Practice, Practice with it at a firing range....and it will undoubtedly serve you well once you become familiar with it.
A firearm properly carried and if necessary, wielded, makes the trained woman carrying it an equal to any man regardless of size or strength.
Carry in good health, and hopefully you'll never have to use it for more than practice.
Oh, and happy belated birthday!
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mark5019
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Atlanta, GA | reply to SmackWeasel
glocks can be carried loaded with a round in the chamber safely there .
true a revolver is better for a beginner. |
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Ivan
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Good for you E_G. Tim_k gave you some good starting points. Most of us that CC have more than 1 holster - different events, different positions.
Ignore the anti gun, anti Glock crowd. I carry a Glock 26 and it's fired 5000+ rds without a hiccup. They are reliable.
My wife carries a Bersa - nothing sexier than a woman with a shoulder holster 
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ixNay
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said by SmackWeasel : All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about. The same goes with a glock. A little bit of training and familiarization with the firearm you decide to carry goes a long way! |
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battleop
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You forgot to list shooting your self by accident on you list of ridiculous reasons to own a revolver over a simi-auto. |
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Personally I think that a G23 is a bit big and heavy for a small person (I own a G23). Maybe look into something smaller - certainly you don't *NEED* 13rds... My wife has a hard time pulling the slide, and when fractions of second count you don't want to mess with that. Can't leave it chambered since the only TRUE safety of a Glock is your brain. Despite what some haters say it's a very reliable and accurate gun (G23 is standard FBI issue) - but it must fit your hands well.
My suggestion - go to a range and try few guns, find one that is small enough yet you can shoot easily and precisely. A 9mm will do just fine for concealed carry. |
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Mr Neutron
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said by Dodge :at 5'2" and 100lbs, you have a pretty good chance of getting shot with your own gun after it's taken away from you. I am assuming you have it for defense, so if someone attacks you, you will have to get enough room to pull the gun, aim and shoot. Being so tiny I honestly don't see you wrigling free enough to effectively use a firearm. This is a semi-valid point. Please allow me to explain.
As another poster pointed out, once you've drawn a gun, you've decided that you will, very shortly, be taking a human life. And to be clear, under some circumstances, doing so is unavoidable.
The trick is to be aware of your surroundings and exercise enough caution so that, if possible, you avoid having to draw the weapon and waste perfectly good ammunition on some ding-dong.
In addition to the Glock, would it be possible for the OP to also take a women's self defense course? I don't know if such courses emphasize awareness and street smarts, but that's what I'm trying to get at here. That is, having awareness and street smarts can go a long way toward preventing you from needing to draw a weapon in the first place. However, nothing is infallible so, yes, you should by all means have a gun in case push comes to shove and you can't run/talk your way out of the situation.
With that said, the whole "the bad guys will just wrestle it away from you anyhow" argument is utter crap. I'm sorry, but when it comes right down to it, even half a chance of remaining alive and uninjured is better than none at all.
And that, after all, is probably why the OP's husband purchased that weapon for her: because he wants to give her the best chance possible for survival. I only suggest the women's self defense course as a way to improve those odds even further.
I agree that guns are not the end-all, be-all for self-defense, but I take issue with anyone who declares that someone else having a gun is a bad idea. That decision rests with that person and it's not up to you and I to decide what they should or should not have. With all due respect, it's their life on the line, not yours.
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SmackWeasel
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said by ixNay :said by SmackWeasel : All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about. The same goes with a glock. A little bit of training and familiarization with the firearm you decide to carry goes a long way! Questions:
- Does she keep it locked and loaded at all times/or will she by default, play it safe and leave it un-cocked until ready to use.
- If it's locked and loaded, when she decides to take the clip out, will she remember to eject the round in chamber? Or perhaps a child thinking the weapon is unloaded because the clip is removed fires what appears to be an empty weapon? Statistically, this is the way most people die of self inflicted accidental handgun shootings.
I just can't see a novice user or even a more experienced user fumbling with a loaded auto in a panic situation. Using a revolver in an emergency situation takes less steps and temporal thought out of the equation and places thought in the more primal reactive area of the brain.
Pull, aim, fire, no thoughts 3 steps verses; Pull, take safety off and/or cock weapon, aim, fire. Or horrors!; Dang-it, forgot to take safety off....meanwhile....
Also as anyone who has owned a semi-auto knows; it takes a firm and steady trigger finger to keep the firing mechanism from jamming (Beretta the exception)
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SmackWeasel
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said by battleop :You forgot to list shooting your self by accident on you list of ridiculous reasons to own a revolver over a simi-auto. If it's tucked in your pants and you're wrestling around in a fight yea maybe, but a holstered or stored revolver, the only way you're gonna shoot yourself is if you squeeze the trigger all the way back to the hammer. These aren't wild west hair triggers, there's a lot of resistance, not to mention the half-cock safety feature.
Whereas, I actually knew a dude that while dancing in a disco, blew the tip of his pecker off with a Llama 9mm auto tucked in his pants.
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| said by SmackWeasel :Whereas, I actually knew a dude that while dancing in a disco, blew the tip of his pecker off with a Llama 9mm auto tucked in his pants. That'll ruin your chances for a date...
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battleop
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I guess you missed what I was getting at. A revolver is not any better or worse than a loaded simi-auto pistol. Both can be carried ready to fire at a moments notice. The bonus on a simil-auto pistol is it's safety (except Glocks). If you can't think clear enough in a bad situation to remember the safety them maybe you are not thinking clear enough to use the pistol. If you practice, practice, practice, you will develop habits so that you don't have to "think" about the safety if such a time comes that you will need the firearm. |
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SmackWeasel
join:2008-01-02 | reply to alphapointe
heh..true dat. Although he did end up with one gnarly French tickler.
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nickc50310
join:2009-04-06
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Re: Women's Concealed Carry
Wow, SmackWeasel you sure are a gun expert! LMAO!
OP- Try different rigs and see what fits you best. Maybe get something smaller when needed. A G23 while not large by any means definately is not the smallest firearm available. Shop around for another gun to carry when needed. If that is not possible, the best option will be to dress as needed to conceal.
Why some people would not CCW with it condition 0 is totally beyond me. That split second to cock it may make the differenece between life and death. I have been a firearm owner and member of glocktalk for many years. While I dont currently have a CHL I do know a little bit about it. I really need to get my behind into the class to get one. |
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