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| Doing you own film processing
This has probably been ask before but I couldn't find anything on it in the last two years search.
Does any one here still do their own film developing and printing? If so would you be interested in a Beseler 23C II Enlarger? I can unpack it and lay all of it out to take pictures of, if anyone is interested. Has film holders, lens's, developing tanks, film spools, timers etc. I don't remember all that is there. Will sort all of it and list if anyone is interested. |
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Hayward
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Key West, FL | Which I had the space, AND dark room/with plumbing for it.
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I do process my own stuff, but I just got a sweet omega enlarger to go along with my other beseler one  |
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reub2000
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I would be very interested in some of this stuff. I still do wet processes, and would be very interested in upgrading from the current enlarger that I use.
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De Queen, AR | Will get all the extras out sometime today so I can get photo of it all and then post it. May be late this evening before I get it al done. |
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De Queen, AR | reply to reub2000
My helper didn't show up yesterday but is supposed to be here this afternoon. Will get the stuff out and photographed then.
Sorry it is taking so long, I guess I should have done this before I posted. |
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said by reub2000  :I would be very interested in some of this stuff. I still do wet processes, and would be very interested in upgrading from the current enlarger that I use.
Darkroom Equip.
1. Beseler 23C II Enlarger
2. 5 negative carriers
3. 50 MM lens
4. 75 MM lens
5. Paper bezel
6. 4 Negative Developing tanks with spools
7. 2 extra spools
8. 4 timers 2 large 2 small
9. Corner cutter
10. Grain focusing scope
11. 3 red safety lights
12. 2 film loaders
13. 6 Pgks. Developer
14. Assorted amount of empty film canisters
Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
18mm 1/60th F3.5 ISO100
Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
46mm 1/100th F5.6 ISO100
Still trying to decide on a price will get one worked up soon if anyone is interested. |
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robar
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wow,
thanks for the memories.. it was hard letting go of my D 2 but i'm never going back
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clubs: | Definitely brings back some great memories of the high school darkroom. I'd buy it if I had the money or a place to use it! |
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robar
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| said by DavisPhotog :. a place to use it! that's the problem. all you need now is a desktop instead of the extra bedroom. never did the HS thing but what i said.. i'm never going back.. my pro9000 works great. i did have to rearrange my desktop to make room for it..
anybody need a film Pentax???
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You might have enough money! I really haven't decided yet on price but make me an offer. Might just surprise you.
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Space can really be made I my bathroom at one time for the darkroom then moved every thing to the closet utill needed the next time. |
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said by robar :said by DavisPhotog :. a place to use it! that's the problem. all you need now is a desktop instead of the extra bedroom. never did the HS thing but what i said.. i'm never going back.. my pro9000 works great. i did have to rearrange my desktop to make room for it.. anybody need a film Pentax??? You'd need more than a desktop to fit in one of the Epson 4800 that my school has.
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robar
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| said by reub2000 :said by robar :said by DavisPhotog :. a place to use it! that's the problem. all you need now is a desktop instead of the extra bedroom. never did the HS thing but what i said.. i'm never going back.. my pro9000 works great. i did have to rearrange my desktop to make room for it.. anybody need a film Pentax??? You'd need more than a desktop to fit in one of the Epson 4800 that my school has. i'd need a lot more $$ also.
at this time the 13x19'' is doing a very good job for me..
i have a friend at a printing firm with a 60'' canon that's unbelieveable..they bought it used for around $10-20,000
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said by robar :said by DavisPhotog :. a place to use it! that's the problem. all you need now is a desktop instead of the extra bedroom. With plumbing and no windows preferably too..... how many have that. Not litterally for printing B&W you can do that just in trays but for film you really need running water.
And for a place like here I would need an air conditioned icebox, because even B&W chemistry as I recall is based around 68-70F.... my house is never below 80 (except dead of winter might haul out a space heater when it goes below 68)... cool enough to dry the air, but not enough you go into shock walking out the door in summer. And any were consistantly near 68-70 is about 3-4 weeks.... even then only at night..
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Most of the times that you'll find in datasheets and online are for 20C/68F. I don't see any reason why you can't use higher temperatures than that. You'll want to keep the temperature for your developer consistent from one session to the next, and you might have to figure out your own times. In fact, I had an assignment last semester that specified a temperature of 75F for a roll in microdol-x. However, what matters here is the temperature of your tap water, not the ambient temperature.
And no, you do not need running water to develop film. I generally wash my film by putting it under running water, but ilford actually recommends a method that does not involves running water, but aggitating water in the tank and pouring it out.
said by robar :i'd need a lot more $$ also. at this time the 13x19'' is doing a very good job for me.. i have a friend at a printing firm with a 60'' canon that's unbelieveable..they bought it used for around $10-20,000 I printed a couple of things at 16x40, and I absolutely loved printing at that size. However, the black ink has a slight bluish tint that makes the inkjet prints stick out like a sore thumb.
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said by Hayward :said by robar : With plumbing and no windows preferably too..... how many have that. Not literally for printing B&W you can do that just in trays but for film you really need running water. Don't know about you but my bathroom has had running water for quite a few years now. 
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said by Hayward :With plumbing and no windows preferably too..... how many have that. Not litterally for printing B&W you can do that just in trays but for film you really need running water. Running water is only needed for the rinse process and that does not require a darkroom.
And for a place like here I would need an air conditioned icebox, because even B&W chemistry as I recall is based around 68-70F.... Not really, I learned to develop film and prints in a very small un-ventilated un-air conditioned room next to wood shop class in junior high school.
We stored the mixed developer in a walk-in cooler in the cafeteria and would wait until it warmed up to around 65 before pouring it into the tank, from there it was a matter of watching the thermometer and dunking the tank it a pot of cold water if needed to modulate the temperature.
It was also there I discovered the ability to punch up contrast by using warm developer.
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2 edits | Ok but high temp shorter development greatly increases grain.... and agin here it would be typically 10+ degrees over norm without otherwise excessive AC.
And as I said yes prints you can do with just trays, but still preferably a windowless room, but for the film end you really do need plumbing. Yes you can rinse a print but you need to wash film.
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|  Why not just use the old "bathroom heat sink method" for temperature stabilization?
Fill your bathtub with 68° water and use metal film tanks submerged in the water to keep your chemicals at the prescribed temperature for the duration of the process. Put your chemistry in the cold bath ahead of time and add cold water to the tub as necessary.
I've done B&W film (needs 68°) when it was 95° in the house and E-6/C-41 (need 100°) when it was 70° in the house, both with great results.
Cibachromes (process was since purchased by Ilford from Ciba-Geigy and renamed Ilfochrome) were a little more difficult since the drum couldn't be run in the bathtub without risk of electrocution and equipment damage.  |
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Hayward
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4 edits | said by Kringle :Why not just use the old "bathroom heat sink method" for temperature stabilization? Fill your bathtub with 68° water and use metal film tanks submerged in the water to keep your chemicals at the prescribed temperature for the duration of the process. Put your chemistry in the cold bath ahead of time and add cold water to the tub as necessary. Uhh because you are just not paying attention AT ALL??? and think the entirwe world is just like where you are????
Key West..... our water comes down a 150 mile pipeline.... much above ground over the 42 bridges.... it in the 80's much of the year..... and then it gets here, and a couple of feet under asphault BAKED.
Places I have lived here I turn off the water heater in the summer, the water under the street is plenty hot..
There is NO cold water in Key West even in the winter without ice cubes , its still well over 70 most of the time even then..
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