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static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Rogers Hi-Speed

Any hope for Toronto broadband?

A couple times a week I come on DSLreports looking for some sign that we may get some decent internet service in Toronto (at least 7-10mbit, at least 150gb cap, no throttle, no DPI).

I go through this forum and Teksavvy looking for any hint that the situation will improve, and everytime it's just another kick in the balls. More restrictions, more stifling of competition, more inaction by regulators, more fees.

Sure there's MLPPP with multiple lines, but I don't want to buy another modem, a new router, hook up an additional line, pay for another dry loop, only to have Bell block MLPPP next week or otherwise compromise it.

This seems like a gigantic and obvious opening in the marketplace. I can't believe there isn't some sort of company willing to step in and grab it. Obviously the tech is there, I know because every other country in the world has it. First one to do it would make a metric crap-ton of money.

The first company to give me 10/1, 250GB cap, no DPI, and no throttle gets my $50 a month. Hell, make it $70. I just want internet that doesn't suck. Is that so hard? Just let me pay you for what I want! I WANT to pay you!

MaynardKrebs
Premium
join:2009-06-17

said by static416 See Profile :

This seems like a gigantic and obvious opening in the marketplace. I can't believe there isn't some sort of company willing to step in and grab it. Obviously the tech is there, I know because every other country in the world has it. First one to do it would make a metric crap-ton of money.

The first company to give me 10/1, 250GB cap, no DPI, and no throttle gets my $50 a month. Hell, make it $70. I just want internet that doesn't suck. Is that so hard? Just let me pay you for what I want! I WANT to pay you!

The only companies that can do that today want the PIN number to your bank account....but don't worry, they won't exceed the $800/week withdrawal limit on your account...until the end of the introductory 'offer'.

static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Rogers Hi-Speed

I'm so fed up with this that I'm actually thinking of just cancelling my internet service, and tethering my iPhone to my laptop to check stuff occasionally, post to my blog, etc.

Sure it's only 6GB a month, and the latency is high, so there wouldn't be any downloading of movies/TV. But with the throttle as it is I can't do that anyways, so I'm paying for a connection that's crippled so badly it's effectively pointless.

Might as well just skimp on internet a bit more and save myself $45 a month.

Bah, probably won't do it. But the fact that I'm thinking about it says a lot. Broadband in Toronto is only narrowly better than internet over 3G. And only two steps above carrier pigeon.


l0thar

join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away

reply to static416
said by static416 See Profile :

Sure there's MLPPP with multiple lines, but I don't want to buy another modem, a new router, hook up an additional line, pay for another dry loop, only to have Bell block MLPPP next week or otherwise compromise it.
I think Bell could throttle p2p in multilink, bonded lines if they want to badly enough.

BUT - - I don't think they could disable bonding all together and stand up to the law suits that would result.

Clients would be hugely inconvenienced, and 'network traffic management' would not be accepted as justification.

It would be clearly bullying and disabling a communication service people need, want and are paying for.

Class action lawsuits would probably be brought forward if they made this move, and eventually Bell would lose.

Not a lawyer, hate the stuff myself, but this would be clear as mud abuse, imo.


Dale84759

@rogers.com

reply to static416
I've honestly been thinking of moving to Cityplace condos just for the main reason of getting their internet. I was thinking of moving anyway and my ex emailed me the other day and told me the speeds she's getting there and how much she is paying and I just had to smack my head. She doesn't even need 1/10th of what she's getting. I on the other hand...

pstewart
Premium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON

reply to l0thar
said by l0thar See Profile :

said by static416 See Profile :

Sure there's MLPPP with multiple lines, but I don't want to buy another modem, a new router, hook up an additional line, pay for another dry loop, only to have Bell block MLPPP next week or otherwise compromise it.
I think Bell could throttle p2p in multilink, bonded lines if they want to badly enough.

BUT - - I don't think they could disable bonding all together and stand up to the law suits that would result.

Clients would be hugely inconvenienced, and 'network traffic management' would not be accepted as justification.

It would be clearly bullying and disabling a communication service people need, want and are paying for.

Class action lawsuits would probably be brought forward if they made this move, and eventually Bell would lose.

Not a lawyer, hate the stuff myself, but this would be clear as mud abuse, imo.
The problem with that approach (and many other large organizations) is that they will throw their lawyers at it until you go broke trying - unfortunate but true a lot of times.
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Nexicom High Speed Internet - »www.nexicom.net/


day of decade

@videotron.ca

reply to static416
said by static416 See Profile :

A couple times a week I come on DSLreports looking for some sign that we may get some decent internet service in Toronto (at least 7-10mbit, at least 150gb cap, no throttle, no DPI).
With those requirements, you may as well stop checking a "couple of times per week" and check maybe once per decade.

elwoodblues
Elwood Blues

join:2006-08-30
Toronto, ON

reply to static416
Ah but Robbers will only allow you to tether till December, after which there will be an appropriate tethering fee. OR it won't count as part of your 6gb and you'll pay extra
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It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

static416

join:2007-01-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Rogers Hi-Speed

reply to Dale84759
said by Dale84759 :

I've honestly been thinking of moving to Cityplace condos just for the main reason of getting their internet. I was thinking of moving anyway and my ex emailed me the other day and told me the speeds she's getting there and how much she is paying and I just had to smack my head. She doesn't even need 1/10th of what she's getting. I on the other hand...
Yeah me too, next time I move the internet service available will be a major consideration.


l0thar

join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away

reply to pstewart
said by pstewart See Profile :

The problem with that approach (and many other large organizations) is that they will throw their lawyers at it until you go broke trying - unfortunate but true a lot of times.
Very true, it's unfortunate that getting justice is so dependant on your monetary means.
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