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rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ

[iO] Tru2way News

This Multichannel News article reports some MSOs missing their July 1 target for Tru2way availability.

»www.multichannel.com/article/307···line.php

The article notes Cablevision declined comment on their status.

I've seen mixed messages from Cablevision regarding Tru2way (CableCard v2). On one hand I have seen Cablevision listed as on of the original MSOs announcing their intent to support Tru2way by July 1st, yet on the other hand I have seen reports of Cablevision's intent to deploy a downloadable conditional access solution. It has never been clear to me how these two positions related to each other (i.e., are they somehow complementary, are the two competing approaches, etc).

Any insights?

--Rob


n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

The FCC has mandated that they have to migrate to Tru2Way but they have been given reprieves time and again (as have the other cable companies). I am sure it will happen eventually, not just on the time frame we have been expecting. I am sure they are in no hurry to turn a lot of SA boxes into scrap.
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TheWiseGuy
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said by rtbond See Profile :

On one hand I have seen Cablevision listed as on of the original MSOs announcing their intent to support Tru2way by July 1st, yet on the other hand I have seen reports of Cablevision's intent to deploy a downloadable conditional access solution. It has never been clear to me how these two positions related to each other (i.e., are they somehow complementary, are the two competing approaches, etc).

Any insights?

--Rob
These are 2 different things.

Tru2way is

said by tru2way site :

The tru2way brand is the consumer-facing name for a series of technical specifcations that provide a way for applications developers and content providers to create and deploy interactive services for consumers. It also opens up new business opportunities for innovative companies across the nation.

The core software technology is a Sun Microsystems Java-based system which is already in wide use by many developers to create content for TV, personal computers, game players, mobile phones and the Internet. The software serves as a universal translator so retail devices can receive the full range of cable's digital services, including interactive guides and video on demand, plus new applications and services yet to be deployed.
DCAS and CableCard are ways to do security versus tru2way which is the programming interface.

CV intends to use DCAS boxes but the interface according to the article below will be tru2way and they will support consumer boxes that are both DCAS and CableCard

»www.lightreading.com/document.as···rint=yes

said by article :

Cablevision, in a move that might keep the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) off its back, suggests that the NDS downloadable security solution "harmonizes" with tru2way and CableCARD-based conditional access systems. Cablevision is already committed to tru2way through its signing of a "binding" memorandum of understanding (MOU) originally negotiated with Sony Corp. (NYSE: SNE) and the top six incumbent U.S. cable operators.
said by article :

Cablevision has already lined up Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. (Korea: SEC) and LG Electronics Inc. (London: LGLD; Korea: 6657.KS) to develop "beta" set-tops that are capable of using the new downloadable security system.

Those boxes, which will utilize tru2way and the NDS "open key ladder," are expected to be ready for field-testing by the first quarter of 2009. Cablevision anticipates making those boxes available to customers by July 1, 2009, in the Phase I service area (on Long Island and in parts of New Jersey).
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rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ


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Thanks for your thoughtful response. My interest in Tru2way is to be able to avoid having to rent a Set-top Box for every viewing location in the house, while enjoying 2-way interactive services available from Cablevision. With that said this means the availability of Tru2way capable consumer electronics devices (i.e., digital TVs and DVRs).

If Cablevision's Tru2way solution will rely on a downloadable conditional access system (DCAS) rather than a CableCard-based security solution, does this not require consumer electronics manufactures to build special Tru2way capable devices that support DCAS rather than a MSO-provided CableCard (security) plugin device? For instance the digital TVs or DVRs would require adequate memory to store the DCAS data rather than relying on the Cable Card device to store this data.

On one hand I like the idea of not having to rent a CableCard, but on the other if the DCAS being used by Cablevision means limited to no availability of digital TVs/DVRs that work on the Cablevision system then that is not a good thing.

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Rob

TheWiseGuy
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said by rtbond See Profile :

If Cablevision's Tru2way solution will rely on a downloadable conditional access system (DCAS) rather than a CableCard-based security solution, does this not require consumer electronics manufactures to build special Tru2way capable devices that support DCAS rather than a MSO-provided CableCard (security) plugin device? For instance the digital TVs or DVRs would require adequate memory to store the DCAS data rather than relying on the Cable Card device to store this data.
I can only go by what I have read, in reading the article, which is a good one, I believe that it is mainly that CV will issue boxes that are DCAS but that would not keep someone from using CableCard compatible equipment. So I believe you would be able to use a tru2way TV via CableCard.

The negative is that a single standard across all Cable providers for security would lower the overall production costs for consumer equipment.
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RemyM

join:2005-02-14
Stamford, CT

I hope that means that they will use the downloadable security for their boxes instead of Cablecards, but you will still be able to buy 3rd party Tru2way devises, rent the Cablecard, and get the full Tru2way benefit. If they require the NDS downloadable security to be in the 3rd party devise to get the full Tru2way benefit then I fear we will have a very limited selection of 3rd party devises.

TheWiseGuy
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Here is another interesting read discussing Cablecards and DCAS and OCAP, (OpenCable Application Platform). I guess we will have to wait and see how the whole thing works out.

»arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/200···card.ars
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gliendo

join:2009-01-18
Bronx, NY
reply to rtbond
All I'm really interested in is if we're ever going to get rid of the windows 3.1 interface we have to use on our boxes...

rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ

reply to TheWiseGuy
Perhaps in the Cablevision Tru2way deployments a CableCard will be provided for 3rd party devices that effectively forces the device to download the conditional access information from the network, storing the information in the Cablevision-provided Tru2way Cablecard?

Time will tell.

rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ

Here is another article on the topic of Tru2way deployment delays.

»www.lightreading.com/document.as···ite=cdn&

Unfortunately no Cablevision-specific information.

Note the last section of the article on the availability of Tru2way consumer electronics.
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