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shoegazer
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join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

reply to n2jtx

Re: Government Oversight

they are not selling gas..


Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05

said by shoegazer:

they are not selling gas..
They have a responsibility to be accurate, though.
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"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson

openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2

And they've said they're working on improving the system



Rogue Wolf
Really Ties The Room Together

join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY

And we just take their word for it? They have an interest in it being inaccurate (increased revenues from overages, decreased network usage by paying customers afraid of unclear caps). If at any point the accurate measurement of a commodity is crucial for determining payment, there should be official oversight of that measurement.
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Hexadecimal humor really turns me 0FF.


openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2

So you want government involvement, and the taxes that go along with it? Personally, I'd take their word for it until proven otherwise.


nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

so you trust businesses and don't have any problem getting ripped off when they turn out not to be trustworthy?

we've all seen lately how well self regulation works out.


openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2

Considering I don't believe that I'm getting ripped off by any of the companies that I'm doing business with, I'm comfortable with my level of trust. If the situation changes, I will reevaluate.



urbanriot
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join:2004-10-18
Canada
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Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable

reply to nasadude
... and we've also seen how government regulation works out as well.

It seems as though you have a clear bias against 'big business' and automatically assume they're out to rip people off. So far Cogeco hasn't charged anyone yet and haven't proved that they're not trustworthy.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

You mean government regulation of...

water, electricity, local landlines, highways, etc.?

There's no such thing as a "bias" against big business that makes record profits in difficult economic times, while complaining about the "burden" of their consumers' usage.

It has been regularly documented on various websites how shady and truly evil these cable ISPs and the telcos can be by gouging customers and jacking up prices where there is no or limited competition. Whether it's Time Warner's illicit and unwanted "reeducation" programs to turn its users against each other and help it pass its metered billing program, or Comcast's throttling of certain types of internet usage, or Fairpoint's desire to impose a 1993 level 5 GB cap on their DSL customers, 'big business' demonstrates over and over again how truly greedy these unregulated oligopolies are.

It's hardly a surprise Canada has slipped so far behind the rest of the world in broadband line quality. Their conservative government has little to no interest in caring for the good of the consumer over the special interests of big business.

I'd like to see a law passed in Canada that forces ISPs to reveal their internal data on the actual cost of internet bandwidth to them. Cogeco having to justify their metered billing to Canada's equivalent of the US's FTC would be much better for all Canadians.



james1

join:2001-02-26

reply to shoegazer

said by shoegazer:

they are not selling gas..
neither are 99% of the meters under said act.

openbox9
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japan
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reply to sonicmerlin

said by sonicmerlin:

Whether it's Time Warner's illicit and unwanted "reeducation" programs to turn its users against each other and help it pass its metered billing program, or Comcast's throttling of certain types of internet usage, or Fairpoint's desire to impose a 1993 level 5 GB cap on their DSL customers, 'big business' demonstrates over and over again how truly greedy these unregulated oligopolies are.
And amazingly without the iron first of the government, these "Evil Corporations" tempered their desires and bent to the will of the consumer. Crazy how things can work in a marketplace if enough consumers voice their wants and desires and are willing to back them up with their wallet if need be.
said by sonicmerlin:

I'd like to see a law passed in Canada that forces ISPs to reveal their internal data on the actual cost of internet bandwidth to them.
What possible purpose would that information fill besides inflaming individuals around sites like this. There are many other costs of serving customers than an ISP's bandwidth costs.


urbanriot
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join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:3

reply to sonicmerlin
"shady" "truly evil" "gouging" "jacking" "illicit" "greedy" oh come on, give me a break... This is a $69/month service, not some sinister corporation out to rule the world.



shoegazer
Premium
join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

reply to james1
does that hold true for speedometers/mileage on a used car..



Jim Kirk
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join:2005-12-09

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reply to openbox9
We all saw what happened in a world of loosely regulated banking. Greed rules.



shoegazer
Premium
join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

reply to sonicmerlin
my mom left canada because of the quean,and the cold thats why i was born in vegas,i guess whats born here stays here..


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

reply to openbox9
Oh PLEASE. Time Warner only tempered their desires when Congress in the form of Rep. Eric Massa threatened to get involved. Besides, you can't expect the public to get up in arms about every little unethical decision or money grab that every monopolistic corporation makes. One of the jobs of the government and the FCC is to protect the people, who are too busy or concerned with their own lives to worry about every little management detail at the national level. This protection includes protecting from corporate greed and business interests, which are very often at odds with the public good.



james1

join:2001-02-26

reply to shoegazer

said by shoegazer:

does that hold true for speedometers/mileage on a used car..
I'm not even going to bother talking to someone who doesn't know what an odometer is.
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said by Metatron2008:

But people who download thousands of movies and games.... Yes, they are as bad as any murderer


shoegazer
Premium
join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

i dont want you to talk to me, so i wrote it wrong,im not trying to cure cancer,are u?



james1

join:2001-02-26

said by shoegazer:

im not trying to cure cancer,are u?
I'm doing experiments involving the effects of antarctic phyto-plankton on cancerous cells... so yes I am trying to cure cancer... is this a problem for you? Are you saying you're pro-cancer? You sicko.
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said by Metatron2008:

But people who download thousands of movies and games.... Yes, they are as bad as any murderer


shoegazer
Premium
join:2009-06-22
Las Vegas, NV

thats the best you got? i better give up while im waaaaaaay behind.lol


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