No_Strings
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The OC | More Malfeasance in Sacramento
(As if we needed another example.)
My eldest son is now licensed by the state of California to operate a motor vehicle.
Clearly, our government is broken. |
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CatSnak
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Lakeside, CA | Well just keep him up there!!!  |
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dogma
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There is no linkage between our clowns in SacTown and your son's new found freedom. You're just old.
Also, I would like to congratulate him in my own special way. If you could, please PM me his email or mailing address, and I will put together a colorful montage of your (Good 'ol Dad's) posting history regarding driving far beyond the speed limits.
I think he will be inspired!  |
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No_Strings
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The OC | I have two things going for me: He's way smarter than his father and his car is much slower. |
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aztecnology
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I was almost certain that your thread was about this...
» Teacher Gave Self Made Sex Tape to 5th grade Students
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CurtesyFlush
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What does he drive? My grandfather bought me a 50 dollar '53 Ford pickup that didn't run, then told me if I wanted to drive it I had to get it going myself. Those skills came in handy later in life.
Of course, we didn't have an HOA telling us what we could and couldn't do in our driveways back then...
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No_Strings
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1 edit | Scion tC. It was more than $50.
»Re: Scion, Civic or ... |
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sholling
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Hemet, CA | reply to No_Strings
Oh oh bumper cars in the OC. |
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ghostpainter
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My first car was a 56 Mercury that dropped its rods all over the San Bernardino Fry in Montclare at 3:am in the morning and I had to call my dad to come and get us.
Just how old is your oldest son. My dad taught me how to drive when I was 12 up on Baldy in 3 feet of snow with no chains. |
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HappyBunny
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| Would someone explain the purpose of chains to me? All the years I lived in Ohio and drove in some pretty hideous conditions (ice storms, blizzards where you weren't even sure you were still on the road) and never had any chains. Is it because of the incline up in the mountains? Or is it some sort of mysterious California Thing? Because snowy roads do not automatically require them. |
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ghostpainter
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| I have found that chains dont help on steep Mountain roads, but they are good for keeping a good grip on the two freeway passes we have unless the rain freeze's before the snow falls.
But the CHP will shut the roads down. The entire time I lived in Running Springs I never had chains but I did have snow tires.
Up in Montana and south Dakota, I never put on chains even if traveling in a blizzard as long as Ice wasn't forming.
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No_Strings
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said by ghostpainter  :Just how old is your oldest son. My dad taught me how to drive when I was 12 up on Baldy in 3 feet of snow with no chains. He's 16.
My first car was a '59 Fiat that my brother and I ran around in our field when I was 14. Working on a farm all through high school, I was driving all kinds of mechanized contraptions. Getting a license seemed like a pointless formality.
It's hard to find space around here to give them some time behind the wheel. I'm also trying to teach both of them (younger one is 14) to drive a stick, but the S4 isn't very accommodating for beginners.
said by HappyBunny : Would someone explain the purpose of chains to me? I don't get it either. Snow tires always seemed to work in the snow belt. |
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heliox
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My 5th grade teacher was hot.
Mrs. Anderson (Joanne I think).
Long brown hair and glasses.
I got into science because of her.
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spg
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Tire chains and snow tires offer the best combination for traction. Regular tires & chains outperform just snow tires.
For most of us chains will do just fine because for the most part we only occasionally encounter snow. Unless you live in the Sierras or Cascades chances are you probably wouldn't know what a snow tire is.
When the CHP says put chains on they can see immediately if you're in compliance. They don't have to verify snow tires or argue with people who say they have M+S tires. Besides, lets face it; the vast majority of us need all the help we can get in the snow. We live for the beach remember? When I moved here they assured me I'd have beach front property........someday!
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dogma
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Now, in all seriousness I need to better understand your thought process here as I have a son who will be 16 next year.
What is the justification for a new car...or any car at all? I skimmed through the Scion, Civic, or... thread, but it seemed you had made up your mind that another car was going to occupy the driveway. Also, I am making some assumptions (feel free to correct where applicable) ; basically your son is 16, and has not graduated High School (going into the 11th or 12th?) , That he has no financial responsibility for this vehicle (acquisition cost/payments, Insurance) other than fuel, and he has not signed on with the Milwaukee Brewers farm club yet. So the Scion is effectively a gift right?
How do you square (balance?) earning "ones own" as a character building process, against providing the "better things in life" for your children? Both approaches have their advantages and disadvantages.
My son has already approached me suggesting I replace the 2000 Focus with...an Audi (...of all things  ) that he can drive next year. I told him that Desert Audi will sell him any car on their lot if he has the money to pay for it. He earns some pocket change washing some neighbors cars, weeding flower beds, and performing garage clean ups. But even here, I have to stay on top of him to do that.
I know he will need transportation as he already is driving me nuts with his transport request. (Now I will give him a few bucks to catch the bus). My gut is to give him access to the Focus, and like Jack...it WILL be in need of repair at 200K miles [betcha' didn't think any American car could ever get there]. And let him spend his earned money fixing the car. That's how I had to do it. I don't think you had it much different.
On the other hand, a car is nothing more than utilitarian now-a-days. It's really not much more than a glorified bicycle in that its functionality is to get one from point A to point B. However There is a social pecking order, especially at the High School level, and a beat down hooptie won't score well with the chicks. So $20K will buy a lot of prestige for an 11th grader and isn't my kid worth it? Plus momma will lobby for something extremely reliable and safe (even though she ain't coming outta' pocket either).
So...how did you come to this decision? |
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CurtesyFlush
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Fontana, CA | Took the words raht outta mah tater trap. I don't get the whole new thing either.
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No_Strings
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Are you kidding? I'm hoping I haven't scarred him permanently by buying a Japanese cheapo instead of a 3 series like all his friends are driving. |
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dogma
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Boulder City, NV | No, I'm serious...and would you please accommodate me with a more in depth answer to my questions above?
This is a bridge I too will need to cross shortly and your real-world input will be instrumental. |
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CurtesyFlush
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One of the kids on my nephew's baseball team received a very South OC grad gift: A brand new 2001 yellow H2.
I got 75 bucks from the old man. I was tickled shitless to get it, seeing as how it represented 55.5 hours of pay at the gas station I was working at. Or 234.3 gallons of regular.
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CurtesyFlush
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Fontana, CA | Jesus H. Christ Jack, you sound like an old fart.
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