emoci
join:2007-05-29
York, ON
1 edit | Bell Landline to go up by $2, will this apply to TSI as well
Got my bell bill today....found out two things:
1. Basic landline cost will go up by $2 starting August 1
2. Bell has changed their TOS to add the following:
quote:
Customers subscribing solely to Bell’s residential local telephone service who purchase any additional product(s) or service(s) from Bell and/ or its affiliated companies will:
(i) no longer be eligible for the then
applicable CRTC approved maximum price for residential stand-alone
primary exchange local telephone service;
(ii) be subject to any future
price increases for such residential local telephone service; and
(iii) be required to pay the then applicable downgrade fees (currently $35, subject to change), and any applicable administrative charges and/or early termination fees, if they cancel all of the additional product(s) or
service(s) in order to be eligible for the then applicable CRTC approved maximum price for residential stand-alone primary exchange local telephone service (the “Downgrade Option”).
Customers who exercise the Downgrade Option at any time prior to December 31, 2009 will not be required to pay the applicable downgrade fees but will be required to pay any applicable administrative charges and/or early termination fees.
From »www.bell.ca/web/all_languages/al···s_en.pdf
My questions:
1. Will TSI Home Phone prices see a $2 increase in August?
2. Does TSI qualify as an "Affiliated Company" as per TOS (I sure hope not)....? |
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away | OMG, what a loser company BCE has turned out into. 
And our inept federal government doesn't help either. |
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An_Onymous
@teksavvy.com | reply to emoci
Bell thinks their services are not regulated as soon as customers subscribe to their expensive add-on services such as caller ID, call waiting call answer etc.
Have they got CRTC's rubber stamp approval already? |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON | reply to emoci
Well, at least it shouldn't apply to me (apart from maybe the $2) because I refuse to give bell $8 a month to turn OFF the caller ID blocking.  |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to emoci
what the heck
and i never bothered getting a land line or cell phone ( not in a million years ) .. because a) i barely use a phone -- only to talk to the gf or family and 2) i dont want to spend 20$ for using a phone maybe 20 times a month
now it goes up in price ? thats it, im finding my fathers shotgun and putting it in my mouth, LOL
*dramatic* |
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tor
@teksavvy.com | reply to emoci
We need Rocky to confirm this. If this is true I might going back to dry loop. I might get a cell phone or maybe get VOIP phone.
Heck maybe I'll end up going with Rogers, I don't know right now.
This is nuts! |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
 ·Vonage
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»www.acanac.ca/Phones.htm probably has the best price for VOIP service I've ever seen at $9.95 / month, only drawback is you'll need to provide your own VTA ($30-$60+)
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I love fish sticks. I love putting fish sticks in my mouth. |
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recneps
join:2006-06-24
Whitby, ON
1 edit | reply to emoci
So is bell saying "If you have phone with us, but get any additional service from an affiliate, you will pay more?"
Can anyone clarify that statement from their TOS? |
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El Quintron
Could you spare a consulting gig?
join:2008-04-28
Etobicoke, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Acanac
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said by emoci  :My questions: 1. Will TSI Home Phone prices see a $2 increase in August? 2. Does TSI qualify as an "Affiliated Company" as per TOS (I sure hope not)....? @ #2 I doubt TSI qualifies as an affiliated company due to the fact that they're a reseller. They buy the service wholesale, and don't fall under this pricing structure. (they would fall under some type of wholesale Tariff)
It may be time for another batch of letters to the CRTC.
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Working to bring you closer to a Bell and Rogers free household. |
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slow joe
join:2008-01-17 | reply to emoci
Strange. I have the second paragraph (effective June 1 ...)
I don't have the first one (effective August 1 ....)
I wonder if this would be in selected areas. |
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An_Onymous
@teksavvy.com | His line is not basic service under the new rule. He has $1.30 for message waiting and call blocking(???) |
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HeadSpinning
join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON | reply to emoci
It looks to me like Bell is about to start hitting people with all sorts of punitive charges if they switch any of their services to other providers.
Its just their little way of showing how much they really care. |
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HeadSpinning
join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
| reply to An_Onymous
said by An_Onymous :
His line is not basic service under the new rule. He has $1.30 for message waiting and call blocking(???)
Call Forward Busy / Message Waiting Indication - AKA 3rd party Voice Mail. |
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BurnHavoc
join:2003-07-14
Kitchener, ON | reply to emoci
Gah. I already have enough bills to pay x_X |
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Martian3
join:2004-10-17
Lindsay, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Bell is attempting to migrate as many customers as possible into their home phone packages, which they're interpreting as unregulated services. The price increase only applies to residential access lines -- if those go up $2 but the home phone packages stay at the same price, the home phone packages become much more attractive in terms of pricing.
I'm interpreting the change to the UToS in mostly the same vein. If I sign up for a home phone package from Bell and later decide that I want to go back to a (regulated) access line, I'll be hit with a $35 downgrade fee. While the UToC change doesn't specifically mention home phone packages and therefore could apply to anyone with extra features on their line, I suspect that's who it's targeting.
One change encourages migration, the other discourages going back.
Notable is that Bell charges substantially more than the regulated price for their home phone lite package (which comes with no features), but applies bundle discounts to it and all home phone packages. The whole thing seems like a way to get more customers into Bell bundles by making a basic home phone line too expensive to have without other services. None of it applies to wholesalers in any way that I'm aware of.
I too am curious as to whether this price increase is going to hit TSI lines as well. I'm assuming I'll receive an email before such a thing occurs.
slow joe - I'm guessing you have something other than an access line, and so the $2 price hike doesn't apply to you. If you have a home phone package then this won't affect you.
Don't ask me for my sources, I'm not telling.  |
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nigrunze
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
| I'm surprised none of us (myself included) saw this coming. It's here a year after Bell increased the price of "Call Waiting Unblocking" from $5.50 to $6.95 (wtf!).
If TekSavvy's phone service isn't affected by the price raise, they may just get some new (phone) customers. |
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VenusFlytrap
join:2007-11-18
Canada | 1) I hate Bell
2) The CRTC is a disgraceful rubber-stamping agency, gleefully rubber-stamping approvals for the greedy Bell and Rogers. |
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THE Fatman
@rogers.com | reply to tor
'tor
Heck maybe I'll end up going with Rogers, I don't know right now.'
From frying pan to fire........trust me! |
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petah
join:2002-07-27
Canada
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This is one of the reasons I moved the land line service to Teksavvy. First reason was the LD "access fee" Bell charged us since 2002 that my parents never bothered to check on the bill.
We have never used Bell's LD. My mom uses a calling card and I have the $4/month LD number that I dial. We were never notified of such fee (apparently since 2000) and I have never bothered to check my parents' Bell bill until about 3 weeks ago.
We were paying $42/month after taxes and switching to Teksavvy resulted in $14/month savings ($28/month after taxes)
Bell tried to talk my mom into signing a 2 year contract and give us some discounts on the phone service, I did some quick math and told Bell to take a hike. I am not about to sign another 2 year contract if I can still be on monthly and pay less.
Teksavvy 2 : Bell 0 in my house.
Next will be TV, when is Teksavvy going to offer TV service? |
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tor
@teksavvy.com
| Bell owns half of Virgin Mobile. I am wondering if they are going to screw that up too!
»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···ile.html |
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