  danielk
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1 edit | Core i5-750 OC Preview
»hardocp.com/article/2009/08/24/i···review/1
Looks very promising, note these temps are on a TRUE copper without proper mating since they didn't have a LGA1156 mounting bracket. I'd assume temps would be better with proper mounting. |
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  Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY
| Interesting,
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However, given the lack of a proper mounting bracket for the ThermalRight TRUE, I dont quite see why they didnt just have an intern hold it in place (pressing down firmly) while blowing on it vigorously,
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LOL,
Cant wait to see post NDA reviews, with proper mounting brackets,
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  danielk
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| reply to danielk In the discussion thread, Kyle posted they just today got an LGA1156 bracket for their TRUE looking forward to seeing how those temps turn out.
Still leaning towards a 750 in my new rig next year, and this only pushes me further. |
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  Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY
1 edit | Cool, but an unpaid intern has got to be cheaper,
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Seriously though, Im not sure if I would want to go with a Lynnfield LGA1156 platform or another Bloomfield LGA1366 platform.
Full review on Core i5 750 |
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  danielk
join:2009-02-01 Wichita, KS | Nice to see that they're both neck and neck in gaming, not really concerned about rendering or synthetic benches. |
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  Mchart Super Joe
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| The synthetic benchmarks show just how much faster the i7 is. Almost every game on the market isn't going to show much framerate improvement with a faster/better CPU at this moment in time. However, within a year we will start seeing games that will in fact make use of the extra proccessing power. The i7 doesn't cost that much more. I'd rather get the part thats faster and is going to last longer, then get the i5. Just my opinion. -- THIS IS SPENCER. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - I HAVE JOE. RETURNING TO BASE. |
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  danielk
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1 edit | »hardocp.com/article/2009/08/25/i···_preview
An actual review they said will be available next week.
So far we still haven't had any games at all almost that can even tax the C2Q's. The main thing that has me attracted is price. Where the 750 is starting at $205 and the 920 is starting around 270 (don't live anywhere near a microcenter so i can't snag one for $200-220), also word is the high-end p55 boards are gonna be around the same cost as the low-end x58 boards and already the p55 is looking to be a very strong platform, plus theres a Gigabyte p55 board coming with 6 DIMM slots as well as intel is also planning on making i7's for the LGA 1156 socket. I will agree with you that the i7 is faster hands down, but if i can't get near identical gaming performance at $300-400 less, i'm sold  |
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  The Flash You don't win friends with salad Premium join:2002-10-17 Toronto, ON | reply to Mchart It's not so much the CPU price difference, but also the motherboards. The i7 mobos are not cheap at all.
Plus you can overclock the crap out of the i5. |
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  Mchart Super Joe
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| Meh, I don't see 300 dollars as to bad for a motherboard. The 'cheaper' $300 i7 motherboards aren't 'cheap' in quality motherboards at all. So it's not like you have to get the 500 dollar i7 motherboards to get a feature-rich and quality motherboard. -- THIS IS SPENCER. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - I HAVE JOE. RETURNING TO BASE. |
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| said by Mchart :Meh, I don't see 300 dollars as to bad for a motherboard. The 'cheaper' $300 i7 motherboards aren't 'cheap' in quality motherboards at all. So it's not like you have to get the 500 dollar i7 motherboards to get a feature-rich and quality motherboard. 300 bucks is a lot for a motherboard, maybe your price points are a lot higher than most here. |
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3 edits | Re
Typically when I invest on a motherboard thats about how much I spend. Anywhere from $200-$300. Most motherboards in that price range tend to have features that cheaper motherboards never have. This is why the argument that one could simply 'spend more on the i5 motherboard' when the entire reason for buying it was to save money, seems stupid. Because if you buy the 'cheaper' i7 motherboards in the high 200 to 300 dollar range, they will have the same exact features as the same price range i5 motherboards. (Besides socket specific ones) Seems like a moot argument if your argument is for price. Now, if you are in fact buying the cheaper 100-200 dollar motherboard along with an i5.. ok. However, why not at that point buy an even cheaper E8400 based build which will run all the current games just as well anyways?
This is the argument I keep seeing people bring up - And I agree with it. However, whats the point in spending more on i5 when you could spend even less and gain the same level of performance in every game on the market even by using an E8400.
Once again, the i7 is the better choice for longevity and performance. It may not show subtantial gains in games right now. However, only half a year from now it will show a substantial amount of performance over the i5, and LGA775 stuff.
Spend the extra 100 bucks on something thats going to last longer. If you don't have the money, spend even less then an i5 build is going to cost and pickup a C2D/C2Q build.
I should also point out that if we are talking in relation to context of this thread - Overclocking the i5; That means you would be buying one of the more expensive i5 motherboards at that point anyways. So why not just opt to get i7 instead? The i5 just doesn't seem like a good purchasing decision right now for reason I described. -- THIS IS SPENCER. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - I HAVE JOE. RETURNING TO BASE. |
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  Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY
| reply to danielk Re: Core i5-750 OC Preview
said by danielk :» hardocp.com/article/2009/08/25/i···_previewAn actual review they said will be available next week. So far we still haven't had any games at all almost that can even tax the C2Q's. The main thing that has me attracted is price. Where the 750 is starting at $205 and the 920 is starting around 270 (don't live anywhere near a microcenter so i can't snag one for $200-220), also word is the high-end p55 boards are gonna be around the same cost as the low-end x58 boards and already the p55 is looking to be a very strong platform, plus theres a Gigabyte p55 board coming with 6 DIMM slots as well as intel is also planning on making i7's for the LGA 1156 socket. I will agree with you that the i7 is faster hands down, but if i can't get near identical gaming performance at $300-400 less, i'm sold Indeed,
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Quite right,
But what do you say to those who can buy an Intel Core i7 920 (Boxed Retail) for ~$199.99 and an entry level X58 Motherboard for ~$169.99,
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| said by Octavean :said by danielk :» hardocp.com/article/2009/08/25/i···_previewAn actual review they said will be available next week. So far we still haven't had any games at all almost that can even tax the C2Q's. The main thing that has me attracted is price. Where the 750 is starting at $205 and the 920 is starting around 270 (don't live anywhere near a microcenter so i can't snag one for $200-220), also word is the high-end p55 boards are gonna be around the same cost as the low-end x58 boards and already the p55 is looking to be a very strong platform, plus theres a Gigabyte p55 board coming with 6 DIMM slots as well as intel is also planning on making i7's for the LGA 1156 socket. I will agree with you that the i7 is faster hands down, but if i can't get near identical gaming performance at $300-400 less, i'm sold Indeed,
.. Quite right,
But what do you say to those who can buy an Intel Core i7 920 (Boxed Retail) for ~$199.99 and an entry level X58 Motherboard for ~$169.99,
..? Hate them and they stank... |
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  Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY
| LOL, well Im just yanking your chain a bit. However, my point is that many people have had the opportunity to buy an Intel Core i7 920 from Microcenter for ~$199.99 (plus tax):
»www.microcenter.com/single_produ···=0302727
I have read many a thread where people have done just that. For those who have and who can take advantage of this, you have to admit that the Intel Core i5 750 is a lot less attractive. Plus there is no wait.
Also note, venders often inflate prices for newly released hardware that is in demand so there may be a cooling off period for Lynnfield if you want to get a fair price. I know when I bought my Intel Core i7 920 and ASUS P6T Deluxe from Newegg (the day they first went on sale) that the price was inflated. |
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  danielk
join:2009-02-01 Wichita, KS 1 edit | Yea, nearest one is in Overland Park bout 3 hours out, may be worth the trip, i'm waiting until next year to get my finances situated and plan my next build, guess we'll have to see what prices are at. |
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4 edits | reply to Octavean Is there some sort of catch with Microcenter? Those prices are superb, and there's one not 30 minutes from me...
Thinking of putting together an i7 920 / GTX 275 build (mainly for flight simulation), but maybe it's better to wait a bit and pick up an something on the 1156 interface... -- It's only hubris if I'm wrong. |
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1 edit | reply to danielk Personally, if i'm strictly budget oriented, i'd stick with a i7 750.
The new i7 870 ($500?) outperforms just about everything in many areas except for the Extreme Edition ($1000+ at a retailer), i'd take it over the extreme and save more than $500 for the same performance.
Anandtech has a great article that goes over it, released today. |
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  akhbhaat
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2 edits | Yeah, but apparently the i7 has a big leg up in the SP2 version of FSX. The 750 looks like a hell of a deal, but I'm particularly interested in the i7 860 ($230 at Microcenter). If not for that, I'd probably go with the 750. -- It's only hubris if I'm wrong. |
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  danielk
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2 edits | reply to akhbhaat said by akhbhaat :Is there some sort of catch with Microcenter? Those prices are superb, and there's one not 30 minutes from me... Thinking of putting together an i7 920 / GTX 275 build (mainly for flight simulation), but maybe it's better to wait a bit and pick up an something on the 1156 interface... don't know and don't care how they did that, just hope they keep it up 
IMO, if i was that close to an MC, i'd just spring for an i7, for the cost of a high end p55 board maybe a lil more you can snag a respectable X58 board, tri-chan kits are becoming more and more affordable as well. Plus once gulftown rolls out, since it's built for X58 all you would have to do is just drop one in for some 6-core magic  |
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1 edit | Yes, true, and I'm well aware of the overclocking potential of the 920. I am a tiny bit concerned about my 620W PSU, though, and the 95W Lynnfield processors alleviate that somewhat. I have no plans to run SLI, so that shouldn't be a problem, but...
I'll price out some builds and see what comes up. -- It's only hubris if I'm wrong. |
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