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 Tonice2007 Premium join:2005-12-20 Brooklyn, NY
| [XP] Internet and Browsers?
Well, I'm using Windows XP a fresh install, I just updated my computer with the latest software, and I'm trying to go onto the internet; but I can't "connect" to the internet for some reason using Firefox, the latest version, so then I try using IE it still doesn't work.
Then I'm thinking it must be a Firewall problem, so I disable my firewall both Windows Firewall and Comodo Firewall, tried disabling one and leaving the other on, then both disabled, it still doesn't work.
Now, I realized, I installed PortableApps on my flash drive that I got last week, and use the Portable Firefox, to go online, and vola what do you know? I can go online, and am since I'm typing this as I'm speaking.
So, I'm tired frustrated and confused; what can be my problem? I turned both firewalls back on, and it still works with my portable FireFox and not my other Firefox/IE their all the latest versions, if it helps... | |   Viet Vet Support Our Troops Premium join:2005-12-17 Oceanside, NY clubs:
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| Hello Tonice2007;
The first thing that comes to mind after a "fresh install" are drivers for your network card / connection. Check device manger (right click My Computer, left click Manage, left click Device manger) Are there any yellow ? or ! under Network adapters? If so you need to load the drivers.
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| said by Viet Vet :Hello Tonice2007; The first thing that comes to mind after a "fresh install" are drivers for your network card / connection. Check device manger (right click My Computer, left click Manage, left click Device manger) Are there any yellow ? or ! under Network adapters? If so you need to load the drivers. VV Well thanks, for being the first to post; but I really doubt that it would be a drivers issue, with the NIC card, because, only browsers on the HD aren't able to connect to the "Internet" while the browser on my Flash drive can
I'm thinking it might be a firewall issue, with the computer, but then it still can't explain why after disabling both of them it still can't connect to the internet.
Any other ideas? | |  fox7
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| reply to Tonice2007 Unplug the flash device. Go to the control panel. Open Internet Options. Go to connections. Click on the LAN settings, check the Automatically detect settings. Try to connect to Internet. If no connection, go back to the same place and on the setup button by to set up Internet connection go through that.
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| said by fox7 :Unplug the flash device. Go to the control panel. Open Internet Options. Go to connections. Click on the LAN settings, check the Automatically detect settings. Try to connect to Internet. If no connection, go back to the same place and on the setup button by to set up Internet connection go through that. fox7 Well, I didn't try that and, I still don't think that's the issue, like I said, I was able to connect to the internet, my default before, using browsers on my HD but then for some reason, now I can't...
So, it wouldn't be a networking issue, elsewise, I wouldn't even be able to connect to the internet at all using the browser on my flash drive...
And I can confirm this if I run cmd then ping www.google.com or nslookup www.google.com it all works properly, meaning it works as it should. | |   tipstir
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| reply to Tonice2007 said by Tonice2007 :Well, I'm using Windows XP a fresh install, I just updated my computer with the latest software, and I'm trying to go onto the internet; but I can't "connect" to the internet for some reason using Firefox, the latest version, so then I try using IE it still doesn't work. Then I'm thinking it must be a Firewall problem, so I disable my firewall both Windows Firewall and Comodo Firewall, tried disabling one and leaving the other on, then both disabled, it still doesn't work. Now, I realized, I installed PortableApps on my flash drive that I got last week, and use the Portable Firefox, to go online, and vola what do you know? I can go online, and am since I'm typing this as I'm speaking. So, I'm tired frustrated and confused; what can be my problem? I turned both firewalls back on, and it still works with my portable FireFox and not my other Firefox/IE their all the latest versions, if it helps... Why are you running both firewalls on the system? You should use one not both. I just dropped Comodo Firewall just way to many issues CPU pikes an etc. Windows Firewall can be tighted SRP LSP an etc. As Windows security has way to many open access to it. But anyway when you first build the system you should have tested IE to see if it can get to google without Comodo installed or Firefox.
Any other router being used in the mix? | |  Tonice2007 Premium join:2005-12-20 Brooklyn, NY
| said by tipstir :said by Tonice2007 :Well, I'm using Windows XP a fresh install, I just updated my computer with the latest software, and I'm trying to go onto the internet; but I can't "connect" to the internet for some reason using Firefox, the latest version, so then I try using IE it still doesn't work. Then I'm thinking it must be a Firewall problem, so I disable my firewall both Windows Firewall and Comodo Firewall, tried disabling one and leaving the other on, then both disabled, it still doesn't work. Now, I realized, I installed PortableApps on my flash drive that I got last week, and use the Portable Firefox, to go online, and vola what do you know? I can go online, and am since I'm typing this as I'm speaking. So, I'm tired frustrated and confused; what can be my problem? I turned both firewalls back on, and it still works with my portable FireFox and not my other Firefox/IE their all the latest versions, if it helps... Why are you running both firewalls on the system? You should use one not both. I just dropped Comodo Firewall just way to many issues CPU pikes an etc. Windows Firewall can be tighted SRP LSP an etc. As Windows security has way to many open access to it. But anyway when you first build the system you should have tested IE to see if it can get to google without Comodo installed or Firefox. Any other router being used in the mix? Thanks for the info, but no I'm only using one router, since I can't find my other one, elsewise, I would use the Linksys that I had, and bridge the Westell 327W...
Well, what other firewall would you recommend?
Comodo, was one of the best when I did my research about 2 years ago...so, which one would you recommend? | |   tipstir
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| said by Tonice2007 :said by tipstir :said by Tonice2007 :Well, I'm using Windows XP a fresh install, I just updated my computer with the latest software, and I'm trying to go onto the internet; but I can't "connect" to the internet for some reason using Firefox, the latest version, so then I try using IE it still doesn't work. Then I'm thinking it must be a Firewall problem, so I disable my firewall both Windows Firewall and Comodo Firewall, tried disabling one and leaving the other on, then both disabled, it still doesn't work. Now, I realized, I installed PortableApps on my flash drive that I got last week, and use the Portable Firefox, to go online, and vola what do you know? I can go online, and am since I'm typing this as I'm speaking. So, I'm tired frustrated and confused; what can be my problem? I turned both firewalls back on, and it still works with my portable FireFox and not my other Firefox/IE their all the latest versions, if it helps... Why are you running both firewalls on the system? You should use one not both. I just dropped Comodo Firewall just way to many issues CPU pikes an etc. Windows Firewall can be tighted SRP LSP an etc. As Windows security has way to many open access to it. But anyway when you first build the system you should have tested IE to see if it can get to google without Comodo installed or Firefox. Any other router being used in the mix? Thanks for the info, but no I'm only using one router, since I can't find my other one, elsewise, I would use the Linksys that I had, and bridge the Westell 327W... Well, what other firewall would you recommend? Comodo, was one of the best when I did my research about 2 years ago...so, which one would you recommend? None other than Windows Firewall! I wrote a script to for port ranges it uses the netsh firewall commands so in CMD you would type: netsh firewall /? shows you the list of commands but the script is a CMD makes it easier to add ports once run you don't have to do anything else.
For extra protection if you have Windows XP Pro then you can use Group Policy and tighten the OS more for Malware attacks. Very easy to do. I also suggest using Rising International Antivirus Free to protect the system just in case something sneaks pass the Windows Firewall.
This how mine is setup: | NAT | SPI | DoS | PoD | ICMP | Router \ Windows Firewall \ Rising Antivirus \ Rising PC Doctor \ RegProt \ Anti-Malware Group Policies \ LSP \SRP \ DEP \ Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2 (1 Server) Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (7 Clients) | |  Tonice2007 Premium join:2005-12-20 Brooklyn, NY
| said by tipstir :None other than Windows Firewall! I wrote a script to for port ranges it uses the netsh firewall commands so in CMD you would type: netsh firewall /? shows you the list of commands but the script is a CMD makes it easier to add ports once run you don't have to do anything else. For extra protection if you have Windows XP Pro then you can use Group Policy and tighten the OS more for Malware attacks. Very easy to do. I also suggest using Rising International Antivirus Free to protect the system just in case something sneaks pass the Windows Firewall. This how mine is setup: | NAT | SPI | DoS | PoD | ICMP | Router \ Windows Firewall \ Rising Antivirus \ Rising PC Doctor \ RegProt \ Anti-Malware Group Policies \ LSP \SRP \ DEP \ Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2 (1 Server) Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (7 Clients) You have quite a nice setup there...
But anyway to get back on topic, what could be disabling my Internet connection? I know I'm connected to the Internet, like I said I can do all kinds of stuff ping, nslookup, tracert, etc and I can even go online with a portable Firefox, but not using a regualr IE or Firefox, it's blocked... | |   tipstir
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| said by Tonice2007 :said by tipstir :None other than Windows Firewall! I wrote a script to for port ranges it uses the netsh firewall commands so in CMD you would type: netsh firewall /? shows you the list of commands but the script is a CMD makes it easier to add ports once run you don't have to do anything else. For extra protection if you have Windows XP Pro then you can use Group Policy and tighten the OS more for Malware attacks. Very easy to do. I also suggest using Rising International Antivirus Free to protect the system just in case something sneaks pass the Windows Firewall. This how mine is setup: | NAT | SPI | DoS | PoD | ICMP | Router \ Windows Firewall \ Rising Antivirus \ Rising PC Doctor \ RegProt \ Anti-Malware Group Policies \ LSP \SRP \ DEP \ Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2 (1 Server) Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (7 Clients) You have quite a nice setup there... But anyway to get back on topic, what could be disabling my Internet connection? I know I'm connected to the Internet, like I said I can do all kinds of stuff ping, nslookup, tracert, etc and I can even go online with a portable Firefox, but not using a regualr IE or Firefox, it's blocked... How are you using Windows XP?
1. from within XP 2. from the dos setup screen 3. over network share
How are you doing it and when you do it if from step 2 are you deleting the partition it's on. Best bet for you is download a Disk Wipe software there freeware versions of this software. That would make it you start off fresh and install a clean version of XP.
Once you install XP install all the updates for your system. That's what Rising PC Doctor does and repairs the OS and you don't need to start the service called Windows Update. Make sure all your network interface cards an etc.. up installed and ready. I would start off that way then install the latest version of Firefox.
There is no way Firefox nor IE won't start unless they're corrupted. IE is internal only way to fix that one is to install the latest update over the problem. Firefox you can delete your current profile and create a new one.
Under the shortcut for firefox you type in: - p so it would look like this: firefox.exe -p This would launch the firefox profile manager. Note doing so will wipe out all bookmarks, add-on, config setting an etc.
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| said by tipstir :said by Tonice2007 :said by tipstir :None other than Windows Firewall! I wrote a script to for port ranges it uses the netsh firewall commands so in CMD you would type: netsh firewall /? shows you the list of commands but the script is a CMD makes it easier to add ports once run you don't have to do anything else. For extra protection if you have Windows XP Pro then you can use Group Policy and tighten the OS more for Malware attacks. Very easy to do. I also suggest using Rising International Antivirus Free to protect the system just in case something sneaks pass the Windows Firewall. This how mine is setup: | NAT | SPI | DoS | PoD | ICMP | Router \ Windows Firewall \ Rising Antivirus \ Rising PC Doctor \ RegProt \ Anti-Malware Group Policies \ LSP \SRP \ DEP \ Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition Service Pack 2 (1 Server) Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (7 Clients) You have quite a nice setup there... But anyway to get back on topic, what could be disabling my Internet connection? I know I'm connected to the Internet, like I said I can do all kinds of stuff ping, nslookup, tracert, etc and I can even go online with a portable Firefox, but not using a regualr IE or Firefox, it's blocked... How are you using Windows XP? 1. from within XP 2. from the dos setup screen 3. over network share How are you doing it and when you do it if from step 2 are you deleting the partition it's on. Best bet for you is download a Disk Wipe software there freeware versions of this software. That would make it you start off fresh and install a clean version of XP. Once you install XP install all the updates for your system. That's what Rising PC Doctor does and repairs the OS and you don't need to start the service called Windows Update. Make sure all your network interface cards an etc.. up installed and ready. I would start off that way then install the latest version of Firefox. There is no way Firefox nor IE won't start unless they're corrupted. IE is internal only way to fix that one is to install the latest update over the problem. Firefox you can delete your current profile and create a new one. Under the shortcut for firefox you type in: - p so it would look like this: firefox.exe -p This would launch the firefox profile manager. Note doing so will wipe out all bookmarks, add-on, config setting an etc. Well it is a fresh install of XP, Professional from MSDN, got it from their server...
And the program isn't corrupt, meaning I can run the browsers fine, the web page doesn't load, elsewise, it loads from cache, you can tell because, when you try to refresh it takes for ever to load, that it times out...
That's why I said it was a problem with the Firewall, but it doesn't matter if I disable the firewall(s) at all, because even with them off, it still doesn't work... | |   tipstir
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| said by Tonice2007 :Well it is a fresh install of XP, Professional from MSDN, got it from their server... And the program isn't corrupt, meaning I can run the browsers fine, the web page doesn't load, elsewise, it loads from cache, you can tell because, when you try to refresh it takes for ever to load, that it times out... That's why I said it was a problem with the Firewall, but it doesn't matter if I disable the firewall(s) at all, because even with them off, it still doesn't work... MSDN what version is that OS, has to be something wrong with it and what version of IE are you loading up? What type of PC is it? Home made or something you had picked up. You should be able to get on the internet with IE after you have installed and double check all hardware and drivers. Something else is going on in either your OS, drivers or the system itself. Just not suppose to worked like that. | |  stevekolbe
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| said by tipstir :said by Tonice2007 :Well it is a fresh install of XP, Professional from MSDN, got it from their server... And the program isn't corrupt, meaning I can run the browsers fine, the web page doesn't load, elsewise, it loads from cache, you can tell because, when you try to refresh it takes for ever to load, that it times out... That's why I said it was a problem with the Firewall, but it doesn't matter if I disable the firewall(s) at all, because even with them off, it still doesn't work... MSDN what version is that OS, has to be something wrong with it and what version of IE are you loading up? What type of PC is it? Home made or something you had picked up. You should be able to get on the internet with IE after you have installed and double check all hardware and drivers. Something else is going on in either your OS, drivers or the system itself. Just not suppose to worked like that. MSDN is a Microsoft subscription that you can sign up for with Microsoft that gives the subscriber access to internal use for development only licensing. The software is fully functional and for all intents and purposes in this case essentially is the same as a retail version.
Tonice2007 - If I read correctly, you've installed a third party software firewall. I'd go a step further than simply disabling... I would uninstall and take whatever manufacturer recommended steps are required to scrub it completely from your system. It is one way to absolutely for certain qualify that it is (or is not) the firewall that's the problem. As for firewalling, may I recommend that you consider a low cost hardware firewall instead? Generally simpler and more reliable. -- Steve Kolbe, ANALYSYS »www.analysys.net | |  Tonice2007 Premium join:2005-12-20 Brooklyn, NY
| said by stevekolbe :said by tipstir :said by Tonice2007 :Well it is a fresh install of XP, Professional from MSDN, got it from their server... And the program isn't corrupt, meaning I can run the browsers fine, the web page doesn't load, elsewise, it loads from cache, you can tell because, when you try to refresh it takes for ever to load, that it times out... That's why I said it was a problem with the Firewall, but it doesn't matter if I disable the firewall(s) at all, because even with them off, it still doesn't work... MSDN what version is that OS, has to be something wrong with it and what version of IE are you loading up? What type of PC is it? Home made or something you had picked up. You should be able to get on the internet with IE after you have installed and double check all hardware and drivers. Something else is going on in either your OS, drivers or the system itself. Just not suppose to worked like that. MSDN is a Microsoft subscription that you can sign up for with Microsoft that gives the subscriber access to internal use for development only licensing. The software is fully functional and for all intents and purposes in this case essentially is the same as a retail version. Tonice2007 - If I read correctly, you've installed a third party software firewall. I'd go a step further than simply disabling... I would uninstall and take whatever manufacturer recommended steps are required to scrub it completely from your system. It is one way to absolutely for certain qualify that it is (or is not) the firewall that's the problem. As for firewalling, may I recommend that you consider a low cost hardware firewall instead? Generally simpler and more reliable. Well, what I'm saying is that with the browser running from the hard drive, it does't work properly; while the browser running of the USB drive, works perfectly, with the 2 firewalls on or off...
So, what I'm asking is what can cause a browser to not connect to the internet, excluding firewall and I know for a fact that the browser isn't "Working Offline"... | |
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