  imtim83 You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA
| Newsgroups best way to setup quickest extraction
I currently have a a 160 GB SSD, 150 GB Raptor, and 500 GB Hitachi 7200 rpm hard drive. Is it a good idea to let my files download and extract onto my 160 SSD then have a program, I have running in the background, to automatically move the completed file to my 150 GB Raptor or 500 GB Hitachi ? I mainly want to do this so extraction speed is faster and doesn't degrade my multitasking performance. All stuff that runs from a exe goes onto my SSD. I never want to keep any kind of data permanently on my SSD, unless it is used for one of the exes (programs) I run on the SSD of course. |
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 Da Man
join:2008-05-08 Hanover, PA | If you don't care about wearing out the SSD, sure. |
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  shudwein OG
join:2001-10-12 Canada | reply to imtim83 I believe Altbinz and SABnzbdPlus have autoextract. Maybe check those programs out and see if it's what you're looking for. |
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  fonzbear2000 Premium join:2005-08-09 Saint Paul, MN | reply to imtim83 Grabit has it and it's free: »www.shemes.com/index.php -- »Check this out! |
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  imtim83 You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA
| reply to shudwein said by shudwein :I believe Altbinz and SABnzbdPlus have autoextract. Maybe check those programs out and see if it's what you're looking for. Sorry for the misunderstanding in my topic but I was not talking about programs that autoextract for me. Those I already know about. |
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  imtim83 You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA
| reply to Da Man said by Da Man :If you don't care about wearing out the SSD, sure. How short of a lifespan would it give my SSD if I did this ? |
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 ophelus
join:2004-01-11 Denver, CO
2 edits | reply to imtim83 Maybe 2 years.. remember SSD is a new technology.. you really want to know.. try it and find out.. of course in about 2 years you can probably buy 2 250 gb SSD's for the price of the 160 gb 
Here's a SSD story might help you out more.. »arstechnica.com/hardware/news/20···disk.ars
Long term high density storage goes to the hard drive no matter what.. least for now  |
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 ramakowski
join:2007-02-17
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| reply to imtim83 You can extract it before moving it, or you can extract it to it's destination. Try both and see which is faster. I find extracting it to a data storage location is faster, regardless of the speed/type of the original location. It has to extract, and it has to travel elsewhere, but it doesn't have to require two operator actions. Doing things twice, unnecessarily, leads to more of the multitasking you are trying not to impede. |
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  Martinus Premium join:2001-08-06 EU
| reply to imtim83 It'd probably be faster to extract directly to the Raptor than extracting to another drive and then copying the extracted files to the Raptor. We are not talking about a crappy 3200 RPM drive here.
Not to mention that you'd give your SSD a couple more years to live. |
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 Da Man
join:2008-05-08 Hanover, PA | Extracting to a different drive should be faster since you read the archive and write the files at the same time if your CPU can keep up. |
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  imtim83 You All Deserve The Economic Meltdown Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA | reply to imtim83 Thanks everyone. |
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 ophelus
join:2004-01-11 Denver, CO
4 edits | reply to imtim83 If it were my drive.. I'd extract only to normal magnetic hard drives.. most auto extractions are done these days and you don't notice the difference (or rarely).. but the truth is if you extract magnetic to OTHER magnetic hard drives you will see the extraction be the fastest clocking in at about 3 minutes (4.3 Gb DVD) in most cases for normal new hard drives or about 50-100 MB/s (depends on drive and sometimes if RAR is encrypted)
Again if it were me.. I'd only use a SSD as a boot drive/programs drive.. I'd call it being wasted if for newsleecher etc. (I still don't own one.. need one in the 200-250 Gb range that is a ibm )
Honestly.. if you really want quickest extraction.. then don't waste a good SSD drive on it.. try running a RAM drive (still possible) I believe.. I'd suspect it would perform the same or better then a SSD and all of us have way too much ram these days anyway.. giving up 1 Gb of 4 Gb or 2 Gb of 8 Gb shouldn't cause you much sweat (obviously if your extracting 4.3 Gb or bigger that might not work unless you have a hell of a lot of ram.. then I'd go normal hard drive..)
I would make a educated guess (not having tried it) that a 4.3 Gb dvd would extract in 3 minutes or less from ram drive (problem is hard drive bandwidth not the ram which again depending on the drive is 40-100 Megabytes a second) Since the new SSD drives operate at about 170 Mb/s (the IBM ones I believe do) to 300 MB/s (limitation of sata2) I would say your extraction time from a ram drive to SSD would be estimated at 2 minutes to 1 minute (assuming 300 MB/s)
Infact thinking on this as I obviously am.. let me take a educated guess if you had a 4-20 Gb ram drive (need lots of ram obviously) and you ran your newsleecher folder in that ram.. you could have the movies auto-extracted when done within 30 seconds maybe.. that would be a hell of a extraction.. I don't think there's any hard drive out there that can compete with ram.. that's why we invented it in the first place cause hard drives = too slow 
Last time I experimented with ram drives.. there only problem/annoyance was setting them up, getting them running.. but just to be clear a RAM drive requires work/understanding configuration on your part.. it's not a cake walk but my understanding is there beautiful to use.. and technically even faster then a SSD drive.. |
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 crese24
join:2007-12-27 | reply to imtim83 I thought solid state drives never wore out, because there is no moving parts. Thats what I've been told.  |
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