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Matt
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[Cooling] Aftermarket Cooler for HD 4890?

Hello Gents,

I'm looking to purchase an aftermarket cooler for my HD4890. I believe I have the standard version which runs at 850MHz core and 975MHz memory and I don't plan on overclocking; a quiet cooler is much more important to me than one that allows insane overclocking. With the stock cooler fan at 50%, the GPU sits at 48C idle and hits 73C under 60%-70% load.

I think the Scythe SCVMS-1000 will fit the bill. Should that provide sufficient cooling with a low noise level?
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HRM
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WHy not jsut lower the fan speed. Your temps are fine. MSI has a utiltiy or rivtuner will let you quite the thing easily. Mine never hits 50% speed, usually less than 35%. At idle 20% is fine for me, and I have overclocked mine to 950/1045 without much fuss.



Matt
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said by HRM:

WHy not jsut lower the fan speed. Your temps are fine. MSI has a utiltiy or rivtuner will let you quite the thing easily. Mine never hits 50% speed, usually less than 35%. At idle 20% is fine for me, and I have overclocked mine to 950/1045 without much fuss.
I can lower the fan speeds with the Catalyst Control Center. I force it to 30% when I'm not gaming, which is still borderline annoying, but when I game temps hit what I noted above. What is the safe range?

I'm planning on spending a few hours playing Dragon Age: Origins tonight and that's when temps gets bad, because that game stresses all 4 cores of my CPU and heats the whole case up too.
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Best is to find a way to have an auto curve fan. MSI has afterburner that lets you change the fan curve. Mine starts at 20% and doesn't hit 50% until 65C, but it usually stays about there.

Since I have headsets on when gaming, I never hear it, but according to ATI 95C is safe, so I would just lower it until you have artifacts or until it is quiet enough for you. For me it was getting a stable OC.

Try 20% when not gaming, you should be fine. Gaming is a different matter, you can leave it at 30% and log temps to see if it is OK or not. I noticed my stock settings (for the fan) never went over 32% or so even in the 80C zone. A couple degrees won't hurt things if it makes you happy.

Maybe disable the fan settings and let it auto cool. That will give you a reference point to start from.



Airwolf
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reply to Matt
I have this on my 4850.

»www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/p···&mID=101



Matt
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I've heard good things about that cooler too, although the 80mm fans scare me as 80mm fans, even at low RPMs, tend to be loud.
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Airwolf
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They're not loud at all and I'm running at 70% fan speed.



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reply to Matt
aftermarket GPU coolers are a waste of money IMO. ive stated this repeatedly.

whether for overclocking or quieting the fan down, reseating stock coolers with better TIM and adjusting fan speeds is adequate for almost every card.

you can adjust fan speed with many programs to be more aggressive (for overclocking) or less aggressive (for less fan noise). there are tons of guides and tutorials on how to do this with just CCC, but RivaTuner can also do it for some ATI cards (some newer ones arent fully supported yet, especially with fan control).
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Smoove910
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You must not have owned an early revision of the 4850-4870 cards.

Personally, I changed my cooler to a Zalman VF1000... primarily to match my CPU cooler, but also lowered my temps between 20-30 degrees celsius.



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said by Smoove910:

You must not have owned an early revision of the 4850-4870 cards.

Personally, I changed my cooler to a Zalman VF1000... primarily to match my CPU cooler, but also lowered my temps between 20-30 degrees celsius.
im not questioning that they can perform better than stock, only that that performance doesnt justify the cost compared to what you can do for free or a few bucks. for the price of an aftermarket cooler you usually could have purchased a better card in the 1st place.

there are a few free ways he can achieve his goal of a quiet gfx card, so why spend money? also, i think people stress too much about temps, GPU especially. most of these powerful cards were designed to run comfortably up to 100 C. do we want to them to run hot? not necessarily, but will it hurt the card? generally not, depending on the card.
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Matt
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Luckily, I'm in a position where spending even $100 on a cooling solution is within my means to achieve the desired result. I can be a picky bastard and little things like fan noise will drive me batty -- yet I won't spend the money for water cooling, Freud would have a field day with that one I bet.

Anyway, I'm going to give your method a shot. The CCC allows me to adjust the fan all the way down to 30%. At 50%, noise is tolerable and temps hover around 50C without under clocking either the core or memory.

I'm just worried about it when I game. When I game the card throws off so much heat it causes my CPU and case fans to kick up to full blast and the case itself is noticeably warm to the touch.
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Somnambul33t
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google ATI fan controlling, theres hundreds of guides on make linear or logarithmic fan speeds. they take a little time to set up but once you get the hang of it it is very easy. if you choose CCC profiles to achieve this method, the profiles can be saved so you wouldnt have to redo them after a format.



Airwolf
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I didn't spend a whole lot on this cooler.
Plus, I got my card cheaper from someone else anyways.



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said by Matt:

Anyway, I'm going to give your method a shot. The CCC allows me to adjust the fan all the way down to 30%. At 50%, noise is tolerable and temps hover around 50C without under clocking either the core or memory.
Damn, you can tolerate 50%?

I couldn't stand the stock fans on my 4890, I grabbed the Thermalright T-RAD2 /w a Noctua NF-S12B. Temperatures for the core hover around a cool 51C (That's at the lowest RPM fan speed), it's also dead silent, can't hear it unless I put my ear inches away from the cooler. Going to fetch you $44 for the cooler, $14 for the fan.
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Matt
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said by Fireblade:

said by Matt:

Anyway, I'm going to give your method a shot. The CCC allows me to adjust the fan all the way down to 30%. At 50%, noise is tolerable and temps hover around 50C without under clocking either the core or memory.
Damn, you can tolerate 50%?

I couldn't stand the stock fans on my 4890, I grabbed the Thermalright T-RAD2 /w a Noctua NF-S12B. Temperatures for the core hover around a cool 51C (That's at the lowest RPM fan speed), it's also dead silent, can't hear it unless I put my ear inches away from the cooler. Going to fetch you $44 for the cooler, $14 for the fan.
Hell ... no. Even at 50% I have to game with headphones on. Thanks for the tip, I'll pick those up as this has been keeping me from playing games. Guess that is what I get for not researching noise levels before buying a new card?
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