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 Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | Thousands of BT customers accused of piracy V3.co.uk | 27 Nov 2009
Up to 13,000 BT customers accused of illegally downloading content are likely to receive legal letters in the new year.
The letters from ACS:Law Solicitors will be demanding payments of hundreds of pounds, and thousands of customers from other internet service providers (ISPs) may also be affected.
The law firm has sent an estimated 25,000 letters in the past two years to people it believed to be guilty of using illegal peer-to-peer sites, according to data from Being Threatened?, which claims to protect innocent individuals in such cases.
ACS:Law obtains its information on individuals who have been file sharing through data monitoring companies that track file-sharing networks.
Andrew Crossley, a lawyer at ACS:Law, said that the mailout to BT customers was the result of information from a German tracking client called DigiProtect, which apparently identified 25,000 IP addresses linked to illegal downloading.
ACS:Law sent the Digiprotect data to BT which, as an ISP, is legally obliged to send back the names and addresses of the customers linked to the IP addresses.
Crossley explained that many of the 25,000 addresses will link back to the same individual, and only around half will receive letters once the redundant and repeat addresses are omitted.
BT said that it could take up to nine months to supply ACS:Law with the details, which would see the letters sent next August, although Crossley expects the details to be handed over before that, probably in January. »www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2254106/bt-···llegally -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Official Jetico Inc. Support Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/ | |  Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | Related:
New technology can monitor illegal file sharingV3.co.uk | 26 Nov 2009 Technology consultancy Detica today announced a new technology which could help internet service providers (ISPs) monitor illegal file sharing over the internet, but the firm was quick to point out that the system does not identify individual offenders. Detica CView is currently being trailed by Virgin Media to help the firm gain a view of the overall level of illegal file sharing on its network. Detica's media accounts director, Dan Klein, explained that CView uses a form of deep packet inspection technology, but removes any IP addresses at the outset meaning that no activity can be tied to individual customers. "It's a network device mirroring the traffic, so in that sense it's deep packet inspection, but that's where it stops," he said. The new service could therefore help ISPs meet some requirements of the forthcoming Digital Economy Bill, such as monitoring levels of copyright infringement on their networks, but will not be able to help them enforce the controversial three-strikes policy of cutting off persistent offenders. Klein argued that more invasive technologies should not be necessary to help music and film industries solve the current problems of copyright infringement. "We believe we've found something which is proportionate to the problem of copyright infringement. We don't believe that finding the individual [offender] is proportionate," said Klein. »www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2254036/tec···-monitor -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Official Jetico Inc. Support Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/ | |  La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 Reviews:
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| reply to Smokey Bear What a ridiculous, over the top, cumbersome and ineffective way to try and deal with this problem.
Here's another one from Germany, involving German producer/composer Frank Peterson and YouTube/Google:
CISAC Backs Action Against YouTube November 16, 2009 - Global | Publishing | Legal and Management
By Andre Paine, London
The International Council of Creators of Music (CIAM), part of the global authors' rights body CISAC, has backed legal moves against YouTube/Google in Germany.
Legal proceedings are due to take place at the district court of civil law in Hamburg, following a complaint of violations of copyright and master rights in relation to user-generated content on YouTube. German composer Frank Peterson filed the lawsuit in April 2009, claiming that his music videos and other audiovisual repertoire were used illegally on the site.....
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14,444 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11 | |  | reply to Smokey Bear Another reason to use encrypted bt connection. | |  Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | reply to Smokey Bear Believe it or not, even pubs in the UK are in the spotlight of freaking Copyright Terrorism Hunt & Destroy Squads:
Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringementZDNet UK | 27 Nov 2009 » news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/···6,00.htmA pub owner has been fined £8,000 (about $13,183) because someone unlawfully downloaded copyrighted material over their open Wi-Fi hotspot, according to the managing director of hotspot provider The Cloud. Graham Cove told ZDNet UK on Friday he believes the case to be the first of its kind in the UK. However, he would not identify the pub concerned, because its owner a pubco that is a client of The Cloud's had not yet given their permission for the case to be publicised. Cove would say only that the fine had been levied in a civil case, brought about by a rights holder, "sometime this summer". The Cloud's pubco clients include Fullers, Greene King, Marsdens, Scottish & Newcastle, Mitchell & Butlers and Punch Taverns. The law surrounding open Wi-Fi networks and the liability of those running them is a grey area. Followup story: Law expert issues warning to open Wi-Fi operators -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Official Jetico Inc. Support Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/ | |  1 edit | UK == 1984 USA == not far behind | |  | reply to Smokey Bear said by Smokey Bear:Believe it or not, even pubs in the UK are in the spotlight of freaking Copyright Terrorism Hunt & Destroy Squads: Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringementZDNet UK | 27 Nov 2009 » news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/···6,00.htmA pub owner has been fined £8,000 (about $13,183) because someone unlawfully downloaded copyrighted material over their open Wi-Fi hotspot, according to the managing director of hotspot provider The Cloud. Graham Cove told ZDNet UK on Friday he believes the case to be the first of its kind in the UK. However, he would not identify the pub concerned, because its owner a pubco that is a client of The Cloud's had not yet given their permission for the case to be publicised. Cove would say only that the fine had been levied in a civil case, brought about by a rights holder, "sometime this summer". The Cloud's pubco clients include Fullers, Greene King, Marsdens, Scottish & Newcastle, Mitchell & Butlers and Punch Taverns. The law surrounding open Wi-Fi networks and the liability of those running them is a grey area. Followup story: Law expert issues warning to open Wi-Fi operators I am thinking in USA you can win that case. It's same thing if someone takes you car because you left the keys in it, does that mean you're guilty when it's used for bank robbery? Same thig with wifi, just because someone used it for illegal activity without your permission, do not make you guilty. | |  nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM join:2004-09-04 Geneva, IL kudos:7 Reviews:
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| reply to Smokey Bear I remember, many years ago, seeing a cartoon. A soldier is marching out of step with everyone else. And he is proudly announcing "everybody is out of step except me."
It seems to me that the music industry is acting much like that soldier. -- AT&T Uverse; Zyxel NBG334W router (behind the 2wire gateway); openSuSE 11.0; firefox 3.0.15 | |  | reply to silentlooker said by silentlooker:said by Smokey Bear:Believe it or not, even pubs in the UK are in the spotlight of freaking Copyright Terrorism Hunt & Destroy Squads: Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringementZDNet UK | 27 Nov 2009 » news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/···6,00.htmA pub owner has been fined £8,000 (about $13,183) because someone unlawfully downloaded copyrighted material over their open Wi-Fi hotspot, according to the managing director of hotspot provider The Cloud. Graham Cove told ZDNet UK on Friday he believes the case to be the first of its kind in the UK. However, he would not identify the pub concerned, because its owner a pubco that is a client of The Cloud's had not yet given their permission for the case to be publicised. Cove would say only that the fine had been levied in a civil case, brought about by a rights holder, "sometime this summer". The Cloud's pubco clients include Fullers, Greene King, Marsdens, Scottish & Newcastle, Mitchell & Butlers and Punch Taverns. The law surrounding open Wi-Fi networks and the liability of those running them is a grey area. Followup story: Law expert issues warning to open Wi-Fi operators I am thinking in USA you can win that case. It's same thing if someone takes you car because you left the keys in it, does that mean you're guilty when it's used for bank robbery? Same thig with wifi, just because someone used it for illegal activity without your permission, do not make you guilty. In the USA you will probably be charged as an accessory. The precedent was set with bars when drunk patrons drive and are involved in an accident. | |  | said by connector2:In the USA you will probably be charged as an accessory. The precedent was set with bars when drunk patrons drive and are involved in an accident. That is totally different would you not think? Patrons can see when person is drunk, patrons provide alcohole to specific person in return for money. | |
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