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sixstring

join:2002-09-16
Pasadena, CA

Core i7 Temperatures


scorching
uh, is this normal?

i have a zalman CNP9700 on this thing.


Tursiops_G
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No Way, No How... It looks to me like CoreTemp isn't giving you accurate readings... it also isn't showing the CPU's Core Voltage (VID), which further makes me question it's validity...

Are the CPU Temps available in your Mobo's BIOS Setup ("PC Health Status", etc.)?

Perhaps try another Temperature Monitoring App, and see if that shows different results...

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Freddy
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reply to sixstring
sixstring,

In the event that those results are accurate, verify that the CPU cooler is fully seated.

Freddy



VioletVenom
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Gainesville, FL

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reply to sixstring
We discussed i7 temps a few months back, here ->

»i7 core temps



beerbum
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reply to sixstring
definitely not normal. besides trying another temperature monitor - this one is a very good one (Real Temp) »www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

also I would suggest making sure that your heat-sink is firmly seated, also make sure you did not use too little or too much thermal compound between the cpu and heat-sink.

fwiw: these are my temps with a i7-860 :




Pyrion
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reply to sixstring


my i7 on-die temps w/ speedstep enabled and idling
It's "normal" depending on having SpeedStep disabled - it's not normal if you have SpeedStep enabled.

Thing to bear in mind is that those are on-die temperatures, so they'll typically be about 15C above what would be reported as the on-chassis CPU temperature.
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Chrno

join:2003-12-11

reply to beerbum
You really can't compared the temperature of a 860 to that of the 920. There's a ~40w TDP difference between the two.



Pyrion
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said by Chrno:

You really can't compared the temperature of a 860 to that of the 920. There's a ~40w TDP difference between the two.
Yeah, if anything, his temperatures should be lower than mine, yet even if I disable SpeedStep my idle temps hover around the upper 40s.

What helps is to disable automatic fan speed in the BIOS and just have it run 100% all the time.
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Dream Killer
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reply to sixstring
Whoa, what voltage are you pumping? Thats WAAAAYY too high.

Here's my temps after 5 mins of small data set OCCT:




elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

reply to sixstring
some thign is wrong reseat your HSF asap
idle on that should be in the 35 to 40c range at the most
load temps should be under 70c



koitsu
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Mountain View, CA
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reply to sixstring
Dream Killer See Profile has the same CPU model + stepping as you and does not have temperatures like those. This is not a monitoring bug -- this is a HSF which is improperly seated or a CPU with fried DTSes (in English: bad CPU).
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Martinus
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reply to sixstring

Well, you've made me worried. Not because of the high temps but because of the low temps I'm seeing. A bad sensor?


Octavean
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I’ll have to check my Core i7 920 system since I’m not sure what temps are like on it. However my Core i7 860 system hovers around 39C idling but ambient seems a little high now so it could possibly be a few degrees lower, maybe ~$36 or so.

What BIOS version are you using on your ASUS P7P55D Pro Martinus?



Martinus
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said by Octavean:

What BIOS version are you using on your ASUS P7P55D Pro Martinus?
0403, the one that came with the board from 08/19/09 - according to Everest.

I was meaning to update it to the latest revision before installing the OS but never did it.


koitsu
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said by Martinus:

Well, you've made me worried. Not because of the high temps but because of the low temps I'm seeing. A bad sensor?
Unlikely. There's multiple DTSes inside of a multi-core CPU, which is how you end up with 4 individual temperatures.

Your BIOS shouldn't have anything to do with this; the data comes directly from the CPU, assuming PECI (not a typo) isn't used in this case. I don't think Real Temp uses PECI.

Can you run Real Temp 3.40 and CoreTemp 0.99.5, at the same time and provide a screenshot of the two side by side?

I'd recommend running RMClock to see what sort of power save states your CPU has enabled (this, on the other hand, is something the BIOS is responsible for initialising during POST), but that may not be an option depending on what OS you use (looks like Windows 7; not sure if RMClock works on W7 yet, or on 64-bit OSes yet either).
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Octavean
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reply to Martinus
Interesting,….

Well I’m using the stock cooler on both the Core i7 920 and 860 so that will likely account for some higher temps then those using more capable cooling. I was going to install my Thermalright HR-01 on the Core i7 920 using a Thermalright LGA 1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit I have laying around here somewhere but I never got around to it (about a yr later LOL). I was thinking of getting a new 120mm cooler for the 860



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reply to sixstring
I turned up my room's thermostat a little higher this time because the temps I took before is with my room's temp at 65F or so. I took these with my room at 80F:




beerbum
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reply to Martinus

said by Martinus:

Well, you've made me worried. Not because of the high temps but because of the low temps I'm seeing. A bad sensor?
I wouldn't worry too much about those "low" temps. Heat kills, not cold. I've seen some serious über-overclockers who use cryo liquids to do extreme overclocking - the lowest temp I witnessed was an i7-920 running 6 GHz at a temp of -60°F.

FWIW my i7-860 when idle the temps hover around 19°C - 22°C, and there has been no ill effects.

Like I said it's the heat, so you want to look at your temps under a full cpu load. Not sure what cooling you are using but IMO 70°C is too hot. Again, my cpu running 4 WCG clients generally peaks out at 46-48°C, but then I am running a Corsair H50 water cooler..


Martinus
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reply to koitsu

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said by koitsu:

Your BIOS shouldn't have anything to do with this; the data comes directly from the CPU, assuming PECI (not a typo) isn't used in this case. I don't think Real Temp uses PECI.

Can you run Real Temp 3.40 and CoreTemp 0.99.5, at the same time and provide a screenshot of the two side by side?
Thanks

OS is W7 64 bit.

In BIOS, SpeedStep and C-State are enabled. CPU cooling is Intel stock cooling.


Martinus
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reply to Octavean

said by Octavean:

Interesting,….

Well I’m using the stock cooler on both the Core i7 920 and 860...
...so am I. That's the strange thing.

Well it's winter and it's freezing out there - lots of snow. But it is not cold here in my room, so that shouldn't have influence on the temps.

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