mzupan
join:2003-09-29
Manassas, VA | Need to bridge Westell 9100VM for use as modem only I own a condo and Verizon FIOS did not install an ONT on the inside of my home. They ran a line from one of my phone jacks to the VDSL jack of a Westell UltraLine Series 3 Model 9100VM. I use CableCARDs for my FIOS TV service, so the Westell does not connect to the TV side at all.
There isn't a separate modem. The Westell 9100vm is the only box in my home. It has an internal VDSL modem in it which a phone line is plugged into.
I want to use my own D-Link DIR-655 router for my FIOS instead of the Westell 9100vm. What are my options since I don't have an ONT inside to run CAT5 cable to?
I have tried the steps in the following link, but during the process I get disconnected from the Westell router and have to do a hard reset on the router to bring it back to the defaults.
Westell UltraLine Series 3 9100VM Bridging (Make modem only),
Does anyone has this setup and know the settings required to change the Westell to be a modem only so I can use my own D-Link router? |
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 sashwaPixie Cat Crunchin' n Foldin'Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-29
Alcatraz
kudos:14 | Let's move you over to our Verizon Fiber Optics forum for some help in this. |
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I don't understand, I don't think FiOS can be installed with no ONT. You may not have FiOS, but rather Verizon DSL as well as FiOS TV. But, you need an ONT for FiOS TV as well and because you live in a condo, the ONT or ONTs may be somewhere else you may not have access to and you may have FiOS Internet. |
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 nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:7
1 edit | reply to mzupan
That thread is for a slightly different version of the 9100VM - the 9100VM that Verizon uses may not allow bridging to convert it to a VDSL-only modem...
And since you said you tried the steps in that procedure already, you may be out of luck.
Just curious, why do you want to use the D-Link? The Westell is a pretty powerful gateway device. |
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1 edit | reply to gadgetboyj
said by gadgetboyj:I don't understand, I don't think FiOS can be installed with no ONT. You may not have FiOS, but rather Verizon DSL as well as FiOS TV. But, you need an ONT for FiOS TV as well and because you live in a condo, the ONT or ONTs may be somewhere else you may not have access to and you may have FiOS Internet. There is an ONT - its just an MDU ONT that serves multiple units via VDSL. I think you should be able to bridge over the wan ip similar to a regular dsl setup. The Modem will need to stay, but you will daisy chain off of it and make your own router do the routing.
I guess you said its a router also, so theres gotta be a way to bridge the wan ip over and not let it do routing functions. |
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JohnAPremium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to mzupan
Yours is the first mention of Verizon using the 9100VM, that I recall. There are some here that will do what they can to work you through this. For starters, here is the page with the manual.
»www22.verizon.com/smallbusiness/···e=c18052 |
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 darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1 | »Re: Verizon fios question makes it seem like it's standard for apt dwellers / MDU install with VDSL |
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JohnAPremium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
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Yes, but prior to now, they were using separate modems with 9100EMs, or Actiontecs
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mzupan
join:2003-09-29
Manassas, VA | reply to nycdave
said by nycdave:Just curious, why do you want to use the D-Link? The Westell is a pretty powerful gateway device. The Westell is 10/100 and 802.11g. My D-Link is Gigabit and 802.11n. It's a much better router than the Westell.
I may just call up Verizon and see if they will swap out my Westell for a stand alone VDSL modem. |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | said by mzupan:The Westell is 10/100 and 802.11g. My D-Link is Gigabit and 802.11n. Have you tried the instructions here:
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I use my wireless or an extra router along with the Verizon provided router?
That FAQ refers to the Actiontec, but the instructions should also work with the 9100VM. |
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nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:7 | reply to mzupan
said by mzupan:said by nycdave:Just curious, why do you want to use the D-Link? The Westell is a pretty powerful gateway device. The Westell is 10/100 and 802.11g. My D-Link is Gigabit and 802.11n. It's a much better router than the Westell. I may just call up Verizon and see if they will swap out my Westell for a stand alone VDSL modem. It doesn't work that way - since you are using the 9100VM, you are VDSL2. Verizon only uses the 9100VM with VDSL2 ONT's. There is no alternative VDSL2 stand-alone modem for your situation. |
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 John97Over The Hills And Far AwayPremium
join:2000-11-14
Southampton, PA | reply to mzupan
Sorry it's not working for you. I thought that link to the thread about bridging the 9100VM would help ya out when I posted it in your other thread.
»[northeast] Using my own router with FIOS
I don't know if buying your own 3rd party VDSL2 modem will enable you to use the DIR-655. There are a bunch of them out there, from SMC, Zoom, Zyxel, etc.
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
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said by mzupan:The Westell is 10/100 and 802.11g. My D-Link is Gigabit and 802.11n. It's a much better router than the Westell. Not sure I agree, I have both routers and the performance is the same for every application I have run and the Westel has better wireless G performance. If you want N connectivity, wire LAN to LAN and turn off the dhcp on the DIR-655 |
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| A friend of mine in another state has FiOS and I gave them my DIR-655 and they said it was A LOT better than the Westell. |
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mzupan
join:2003-09-29
Manassas, VA
1 edit | reply to More Fiber
Thanks More Fiber (and everyone else who contributed). The info in that FAQ allowed me to set up an acceptable workaround. Not the ideal solution, but it works until something better comes along and I don't have to throw any more money towards it. |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:18
1 edit | said by mzupan:The info in that FAQ allowed me to set up an acceptable workaround. Not the ideal solution, but it works until something better comes along Glad it worked for you.
Thanks for posting your question about the 9100VM. I was aware of the 9100VM from the Westell site. However, your post is the first report here of VZ deploying it. This makes one more variation to all the bridging configurations. 
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Removed incorrect referenced to first report of 9100VM. |
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nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:7 | The 9100VM has been deployed for almost 2 years - anywhere there is a GPON VDSL2 ONT in use, the 9100VM is required. |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | said by nycdave:The 9100VM has been deployed for almost 2 years Thanks for the clarification Dave.
To date, most references here to VDSL with MDUs have been to separate (ZyXel) modems. I went back and searched and did find one reference to the 9100VM from Sept. and one from Jan. of last year, not counting the non-FIOS reference linked above.
Since the 9100VM supports VDSL2, would it be correct to assume it also removes the previous 20/5 speed limitation? |
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nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:7 | Current max. FiOS VDSL2 speeds are the 50/20 tier....
The highest symmetrical VDSL2 tier is 20/20. |
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This has got to be the simplest most effective way of bridging the Westell Ultraline Series 3 with another router.
»Re: How do I turn my Verizon 9100EM Router into a "Bridge" ?
I don't know if there's a difference between the 9100EM and the 9100VM. But that post refers to the 9100EM. This finally worked for me on the 9100EM after searching through so many other posts that have long confusing setup steps that refer to the Actiontec router.
If this fix doesn't work with the VM version then any EM version users that stumble upon this can try this fix. |
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