 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | An ISP can double check Ip connections It's still unbelievable that ISPs are now suspending the accounts of paying customers based entirely on the say so of unaccountable shadow companies like BayTSP Who says that is all they do? They can double check any users list of IP connections to see where they went and when. They don't just have to depend entirely on some 3rd party company to make a decision. |
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3 edits | Show me that they do this. Besides not even being technically plausible, the DMCA warning letter process has traditionally not done this. Where is your evidence? Based on the CNET piece (which is all we have to go on because Qwest won't talk and BayTSP exists in the dark), Qwest did their investigation after CNET began asking questions: » news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10444···1_3-0-20Paradiso, a technical recruiter who works out of her home near Pueblo, Colo., would eventually be cleared. Last week, Qwest had a technician investigate--after CNET began making inquiries--and he discovered that her network had been compromised, according to Monica Martinez, a Qwest spokeswoman. So Paradiso is off the hook, but she wants to know what would have happened had she not gone to the media. There was no independent third party to hear her complaint. There was no one to advocate for her. |
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 TSI GabePremium,VIP join:2007-01-03 Chatham, ON kudos:2 | reply to Linklist As a Network Admin of a decent size ISP, I can tell you that's practically impossible. Millions and Millions of new connections are made every second, tracking all of them would cost a fortune, not to mention a major privacy concern. |
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 | reply to Linklist The company might not justify "investigating" as worthwhile spending. They might perceive it as easier (and cheaper) to just send the warning out and ask questions later. Although, as the CNET article explains, that isn't always a good idea. Backlash is bad for business. |
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 RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | reply to Linklist said by Linklist:It's still unbelievable that ISPs are now suspending the accounts of paying customers based entirely on the say so of unaccountable shadow companies like BayTSP Who says that is all they do? They can double check any users list of IP connections to see where they went and when. They don't just have to depend entirely on some 3rd party company to make a decision. All checking where the user's IPN is connecting to will show other peer's IPN. There is, of course, periodic connections to the Torrent Server (to refresh the list of peers with parts of the file you want). There is nothing associated with the IPN list to show WHAT was being exchanged (to get that you need to be monitoring the actual piece exchange). IOW, if I am running a Torrent Client, all the IPN list shows is that I am exchanging files with other peers not WHAT files. |
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM join:2008-01-16 Chandler, AZ kudos:1 | reply to TSI Gabe said by TSI Gabe:As a Network Admin of a decent size ISP, I can tell you that's practically impossible. Millions and Millions of new connections are made every second, tracking all of them would cost a fortune, not to mention a major privacy concern. and given the current hardware limitations, i could only imagine what kind of box it would take. ick.
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