richb01803
Rich
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|  Watch these guys carefully!
said by NewsBytes:
Later today, Microsoft Corp., Web banner ad giant DoubleClick, and a host of direct marketers will announce their intent to begin using a technology created to help consumers quickly distinguish between spam and valid e-mails from companies they trust.
If you read this article carefully, they are focused solely on dishonest spam. This is not a crackdown on unsolicited email. It's an attempt to distract the public from meaningful reforms, which would require enacting new legislation and enforcement powers.
Do you really think the good folks at DoubleClick or the DMA can be entrusted to put teeth into policies against spam? These are the very guys who earn their livelihoods sending us unwanted solicitations! |
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Karl Bode
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| 90 percent of the spam I get is this "click on this link to unsubscribe and we'll take you off our list, nudge nudge" type.
A big part of their investigation will be to A. create a nationally opt out list for phone, mail and e-mail. B. Force providers to have legitimate opt-out hyperlinks.
This should at least dull the roar somewhat... |
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shortckt
Watchen Das Blinken Lights
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Tenant Hell | I wonder how long after a national opt-out list is created before some scumb*g uses a copy of that list to send spam?
I just know it will happen, too much temptation IMO. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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| reply to richb01803
I heard that one of the companies behind this
initiative is none other than TrustE. We all
know that TrustE's claim to protect peoples'
privacy is at best questionable; it is almost
a given that when you see their logo on a site
it means they are going to share personal data
with third parties like marketers and advertisers.
Because of this, I'm extremely sceptical whether any
real improvement in privacy or reduction in spam
will happen.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're
very sophisticated idiots." -
Doctor Who
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Greenfrog
I Know How To Take Care Of Bugs
join:2002-01-06
Meriden, CT
| reply to richb01803
For more on the DMA (Direct marketing associaion) approach to Opt-Out see this: »www.mail-abuse.org/anti-dma.html It stinks to high-heaven.
I'm glad the FTC is talking about a crackdown on this stuff. I've just finished retiring my @Home account due to the bankruptcy. The side benefit will be all the spam that disappears with it. In the end I was getting 25 to 30 spam messages for every legitimate email from somebody I care about. Think about what your postal mailbox would look like if the mail was "free" for the sender. My new address (under my own domain name) is getting published NOWHERE.
Advertising emails should be strictly opt-in to a verified address. I say, "I want your offers at me@mydomain.com" They send a verification email to that address with a unique code I have to mail back or punch into a website to validate the request. If I want off, I should just have to send an email from that address with REMOVE as the subject.
What do I think the penalties for spamming should be? Sorry, the AUP for this service prevents me from answering that question, and it's unconstitutional anyway.
Ribbitt |
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Anon | reply to richb01803
said by richb01803:
said by NewsBytes:
Later today, Microsoft Corp., Web banner ad giant DoubleClick, and a host of direct marketers will announce their intent to begin using a technology created to help consumers quickly distinguish between spam and valid e-mails from companies they trust.
If you read this article carefully, they are focused solely on dishonest spam. This is not a crackdown on unsolicited email. It's an attempt to distract the public from meaningful reforms, which would require enacting new legislation and enforcement powers.
Do you really think the good folks at DoubleClick or the DMA can be entrusted to put teeth into policies against spam? These are the very guys who earn their livelihoods sending us unwanted solicitations!
Furthermore, every time I use Ad-Aware to remove the nasty spyware crap from my box, Doubleclick always comes up in the scan as spyware. If MS is going to partner itself with spyware slingers, maybe the time for the switch to Linux has come. |
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Rickez
Goinginsane
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Three Rivers, MA
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| reply to richb01803
Re: Watch these guys carefully! HELL YEA!
The sad thing about Doubleclick is even if you block them with ad blocking software, they find a f***ing way in still. Such as rickez@doubleclick[1] will be rickez@doubleclick[2] so if I use rickez@doubleclick• it will goto something like rickez[1]@doubleclick[1]. This is a pain in the ass and I wonder what the hell they need this cookie in there for. What I would like to know is if there is a way to "Edit" the cookie to send usless info or lots and lots of usless info to them. You know to beat them at their our game type of thing.
Well my cookie battle continues...
Rick
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