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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:42
reply to FFH5

Re: And how do you create that competition?

Line sharing wasn't "tried and failed" so much as it was implemented in a half-assed fashion, and then destroyed by a one-two punch of incompetent and corrupt regulators and incumbent ISP lobbyists.

Claiming line sharing was "tried and failed" in telecom historical context would be like telling a kid to go run a hundred yard dash, smashing his kneecaps, and then proclaiming that he tried and failed.


FFH5
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5
said by Karl Bode:

Line sharing wasn't "tried and failed" so much as it was implemented in a half-assed fashion, and then destroyed by a one-two punch of incompetent and corrupt regulators and incumbent ISP lobbyists.

said by FFH5:

I'm assuming, but correct me if I am putting words in your mouth, that if the gov't had set wholesale rates for line sharing, that you think line sharing would have worked.
But if the Gov't had set wholesale rates, other financial mechanisms,including the flight of investor money in the telcos, would have killed it.

Something similar has worked in the EU to some extent. But the socialist minded; gov't bureaucracy directed economies of the EU are different from the US system. And that is a whole other msg thread to discuss whether the US economy should be run like some EU economies.


Bill Neilson
Premium
join:2009-07-08
Arlington, VA
reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode:

Claiming line sharing was "tried and failed" in telecom historical context would be like telling a kid to go run a hundred yard dash, smashing his kneecaps, and then proclaiming that he tried and failed.
I literally just smashed my knee last weekend

Thanks a lot

Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

But if the Gov't had set wholesale rates, other financial mechanisms,including the flight of investor money in the telcos, would have killed it.

Most of the telcos are just milking the cash cow until it's dry and aren't investing in anything really new anyway so what difference is investor money in the telcos making now?

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
Wireless?


John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:8
reply to Bill Neilson
said by Bill Neilson:

I literally just smashed my knee last weekend.
So, what was your time?
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Bill Dollar

join:2009-02-20
New York, NY
reply to FFH5
But the government did set the wholesale rates under the linesharing regime and the general UNE-P regime. Rates were set by states, using the TELERIC cost model. And contrary to the historical revision, investment by both CLECs and ILECs increased dramatically in the post-1996 period.