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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
reply to sonicmerlin
Re: Excellent news First, I don't care about OTHER countries like Canada or Australia... I only care about the topic at hand with the provider at hand. And, in the case of Comcast, they've certainly showed to be different in the case of caps over all other AMERICAN ISPs who cam up with lower caps.
Second, I don't believe Comcast came up with caps 18 months ago; it's been less than that.
Third, YES - and try to get this one through your head.. caps, while they may be used to discourage certain uses, ALSO do help with network management.
For the longest time, they tried to manage their network with a different method and it was based PER-NODE.. not company wide. Customers didn't like that some high users were being booted so they forced the hand of the company to set caps.. and they did. To be honest, 250gb is perfectly fine for today's users.
However, if you have people wanting and pushing to use more, and you're network isn't ready to handle that (the last mile) then you have to still manage it. Setting a cap or expected use limit or what ever you can paint/call it, IS also network management. You can apply any theory you want to a cap and many of them can be right, but just because you have it stuck in your mind that it's JUST about competition doesn't make it so.. The fact remains that the internet content can outgrow a network MUCH faster than the network can keep up with upgrades... and THAT is a fact. So yes, caps, in this case, are PART of network management. Der!
How can a cap NOT manage network congestion if you have people, and there are, that are running their connection way beyond a typical residential user.. and that user is slowing down a node for other users? Tell me how that can't be network management?
My statement before stands... comcast has YET to push their caps down - it's not to say they are not going to either.. but who are you to sit there and say they're likely to lower the caps? Again, I could care less about Australia where the country has a data crunch as it is and always has. I could care less about Canada.. again, different country, different way of life, and different make-up of their networks... AT&T just announced they're scrapping their caps. Comcast is increasing capacity.. I certainly can see that they're likely to reduce them. All you're doing is second guessing and ASSuming things right now and while you can, that's fine.. but don't sit there acting like some sort of analyst in the all knowing position as just like MANY people here - you're probably wrong too.
The fact is that if the internet is going to be taking over so much of what we do, and everything starts to shift over towards it, we're BOUND to see a change in the way people buy it just as we are seeing the way people consume it. Do you REALLY think that any MSO, be it cable, phone, etc.) is going to simply dwindle down other products and revenue as one service dominates and decimates the other? no.. think about it. Yes, I WILL say that the internet cost WILL go up. They STILL have to maintain a business model and need X amount of $ to run it.. and when video starts to take a dive due to the internet, yes, the internet will either be priced higher, OR will get treated like electricity and gas and you'll pay for what you use... HOW you use it, in the future, is up to you.. Some people will pay more, some people may pay less... but caps, as you say are ALSO a way to manage a network that isn't ready for what people want to throw at it.. you can't deny it.. well, you can, but you'd be wrong if you're saying its "just to control video competition"...
If you're going to make a post, take some time to think about EVERY aspect of something, not just your own view.
said by fiberguy To be honest, 250gb is perfectly fine for today's users. [/BQUOTE :
I have 3 kids with laptops, 2 xboxes, watch streaming Netflix and DirecTV on Demand and frequently use more than the caps allow.
Whats your math for determining that 250gb is perfectly fine for todays usage? Just your own opinion? Perhaps you should read the last sentence in your post again.
fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
You missed the entire point.. I don't need to give you the math.. I'm not the only one saying it. As of right now, who has the highest cap? Comcast. Who has the lowest caps? TWC and until yesterday, ATT.
If 99% of all users are under 250gb right now and most of them hardly come anywhere NEAR that amount.. what more "math" do you need?
My last sentence was just fine.. I AM taking everyone into account.. is 99% of the people not significant?
If you're using more than 250 gb, why don't you take the advice of many other and go business class.. it's usually $10 or $20 more.. but, in the eye of the ISP, and in this case, I'm going to agree with them, I think when they are trying to establish "residential use" for $42 a month, and 99% of their users are at or well under 250gb, I think that's pretty much a great definition of "residential use"... if you need more, that's your concern.. maybe you need to make adjustments to your use, or consider other options.. maybe a slower DSL connection that doesn't have those "caps"...
One thing people need to get through their heads is that just becuase YOU want something and you scream loud enough, you're not always going to get it "your way".. it's not Burger King after all.. as of right now, if you need more than 250, want fast speeds that cable offers, then you're going to have to make choices for yourself.