kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC
| Enternet registry shot
Hey guys,
Well Pinan asked me to take a shot of where the Enternet MTU tweak should be done. I thought that posting it here would be beneficial to other people so here it is!
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R2
R Not
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-18
Long Beach, CA
clubs:
| Love it!
Now what is the entry in the second window "supposed" to show? Should the ...Net/000n "MaxFrameSize" entry be 1500? Or should you delete the entry all together?
If you want to go further -- how about a screen shot of the Control Panel | Network window?
Thanks kobe! +2 from me! |
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kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC
| the "MaxFrameSize" key in the Net/000n entry is 1454 by default. Even if you change that key to 1492, it still won't set the MTU to 1492 since the "max" string in the 000n/ndi/params/MaxFrameSize directory is limiting it.
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kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC
| reply to kobe08
hey rmrucker,
Well here's the Network Properties shot... hope that helps!
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Pinan
Hypnotic Tweaker
ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-09-02
Murrieta, CA | Most cool, Sir Kobe.:) |
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Paola71
join:2000-11-22
Hartsdale, NY |  reply to kobe08
+2 for both screenshots!  |
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schmitt
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Las Vegas, NV | reply to kobe08
Are those shots of the Windows 98se OS Registry?
In the first window - your default "MaxFrameSize" key in the Net/000n entry shows "975", mine shows "1454"; should I change it to "975" with ME? Thanks. |
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Anon | reply to kobe08
Hi Kobe,
Thanks for the shot. You helped me tweak my MTU last week. Much appreciated! Quick question: In Network, my Primary Network Logon is Windows Logon.(I didn't like having to manually log on each time I turned on the computer). Does it make a difference? Should I change that to Client for Microsoft Networks?
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Pinan
Hypnotic Tweaker
ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-09-02
Murrieta, CA | I asked MSFT about this, and they said to use Client for MSFT Networks, and to un-check MSFT Logon (assuming of course that you have a network).:) |
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kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC
| reply to schmitt
hey Smith,
1. Yes those are shots of the Windows 98SE Registry
2. No you should not change it to 975. My ISP uses an altered version of Enternet so that's why it is set like that. It's making me wonder if they did that on purpose to limit users to a certain speed. Anyways, that's specific to my system only so don't worry about it!
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schmitt
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Las Vegas, NV | Thanks kobe08. |
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Anon | reply to Pinan
Thank you Pinan |
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decon1
join:2000-10-26
Blackfoot, ID
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Hey, thanks for this, but...is this what it should look like for Cable Modems and Windows 98 first addition? If so, I dont have anything like that. under the parameters folder I have a folder that says NONE??? DrTCP says that my MTU is 1500. I am with att@home.
Thanks,
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kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC | hey decon1,
You have cable right? This is PPPoE for DSL, so you don't have to worry about this.
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decon1
join:2000-10-26
Blackfoot, ID | reply to kobe08
Whew! Thanks
decon |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| reply to kobe08
kobe08:
Your interpretation of params keys are not right!
max, min, etc are just labels to be presented to the user when user goes to NIC properties to change. The value association with the label is written in MaxFrameSize value when user chooses it. In other words, those that are listed in the directory are just an enumeration of values. In fact you can create your own labels if you want and specify yet different values.
You can still keep the directory in original values but just change MaxFrameSize value. However, when you do this you should not go to NIC properties and change (and apply) again. Because that will overwrite what you've specified.
Similar think exists for IPMTU for Dial-up. DrTCP just changes the IPMTU not the associated labels in IPMTU directory. Hence, user must not change the value from Dial-up adapter advanced properties.
Tolunay
[text was edited by author 2000-12-09 02:05:36] |
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kobe08
join:2000-09-28
Vancouver, BC
| no no no Tolunay!
I'm not trying to interpret anything here. You know that NTS Enternet has a default MTU of 1454 right? Well that's the way to change it to 1492! Maybe I should of posted some shots of what it should look like before you tweak it. You also know that DrTCP doesn't affect the MTU for Enternet right? Well even if you go into your network properties and change the MaxFrameSize there (as in the second shot), you still won't be able to go over 1454 (if you press ok, it'll just revert back to 1454). So what you have to do is alter the max key, which is the thing that is limiting the MTU to 1454. The first pic is shot of where and where not to change it (A lot of people make the common mistake of changing the MaxFrameSize key in the 000n directory instead of the Max key in the 000n/ndi/params/ directory. You have to change it there before you set it in your network properties. Trust me on this one ...
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R2
R Not
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-18
Long Beach, CA
clubs: | reply to DrTCP
All I can say is that I have seen "kobe's tweak" work an awful lot of times. I don't have Enternet, but from what I have seen time and time again -- I have to believe what he says is right... |
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Pinan
Hypnotic Tweaker
ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-09-02
Murrieta, CA | Yup.:) |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
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Sorry for the slow reply.
All I am saying that you don't need to change the max. Just set MaxFrameSize value in the registry and don't ever play with Network Properties afterwards (because if you do it will revert) back to whatever you've selected there.
Again, list of values defined in the MaxFrameSize key (not the value!) are what constitutes the choices. If you go to network properties and choose one of them than that value choosen will be written to MaxFrameSize value. But, if you don't modify it from Network properties whatever you've written in MaxFrameSize value in the registry will take effect.
You can verify this easily. Go to registry and set your max and MaxFrameSize different values. Reboot and logon with Enternet. Don't go the NIC properties to check. Do a ping test or tweak test.
You can see the same thing for dial-up adapters. There is IPMTU value and IPMTU key with a list of values defined there. Whatever you choose from NIC nic properties gets written to IPMTU value. However, you can still set IPMTU independent from IPMTU list of values. DrTCP does just that. It does not modify the list of possible values itself. Just the final value. Again, if you go the dial-up properties and select a different MTU there you'll override DrTCP specified IPMTU.
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