 stevennbOk, But, Thats The Last Straw.Premium
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Wayne, NJ | Toslink? I have a older Vizio 32" tv and a Samsung HT-Z310 Home Theater in a box.
Anyways, I have xbox360 and Wii connected to the tv. I was wondering if I get a toslink cable (to connect the tv to the samsung) with the sound from the games go through the HTIB?
If yes, what sort of cable should I be looking for? MonoPrice has lot's of cables but ...being the putz that I am (and all the cables look pretty much alike to me) do I need a mini to toslink cable or
»www.monoprice.com/products/subde···id=10229
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1 edit | Assuming your TV works in a similar way to mine (Dynex 42" LCD) then yes. You need to buy a Toslink-to-Toslink cable and connect it between your TV and your HTIB receiver. Then, the audio that the TV receives over the HDMI cable will be passed through to the HTIB receiver in full 5.1 glory.
(That is, for the Xbox 360, at least. The Wii doesn't use digital audio, so you'd need to manually connect the Wii's audio output to your HTIB receiver. Unless your TV is able to pass through analog audio over the Toslink port, which I suppose is possible...) |
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stevennbOk, But, Thats The Last Straw.Premium
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Wayne, NJ | Thanks for the reply.
I see that a 6ft cable is somewhat cheap so if it doesn't work with all the devices (ie..wii/ps3/360)..no great loss. |
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 Rook008Miles To GoPremium
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The only problem is that the TV might not pass 5.1 Audio out through the Optical port.
In my experience, my Vizio TV will pass 5.1 Audio from it's internal TV Tuner, but not from sources connected to the TV through HDMI ports. I just hook up each device to my Receiver separately.
Otherwise, the Optical Out on the TV should pass Audio to the HTIB without a problem with a Monoprice Optical cable. I use the 6 foot ($2.46) cables myself, and they work fine.
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My Panasonic plasma will NOT pass 5.1 audio through the digital output EXCEPT for if you are using the OTA HD tuner. Their tech support told me this was the intended behavior.
The Wii does not have digital or surround sounds outputs, only 2 channels. The Xbox you can get the component video or VGA cables with optical outputs such as: »www.monoprice.com/products/produ···cription or just the standalone audio (if you use the hdmi)
such as: »www.eforcity.com/268824.html?efp···b+268824
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said by ajhaji:Assuming your TV works in a similar way to mine (Dynex 42" LCD) then yes. You need to buy a Toslink-to-Toslink cable and connect it between your TV and your HTIB receiver. Then, the audio that the TV receives over the HDMI cable will be passed through to the HTIB receiver in full 5.1 glory. This is not entirely true.
As Rook and joako pointed out, 5.1 digital audio that is recieved into the tv via the HDMI is NOT passed on to the optical output. Only a mixed down stereo signal is available this way.
The only 5.1 audio that comes out of the tv's optical is from the tv's own tuner such as over the air dolby digital broadcasts.
The reason for this "crippling" is intended and the reason has to do DMCA compliance.
But yes, otherwise the cables you linked will provide a away to get your game console audio from the TV, (just not 5.1).
You could also look at PCHcables they have the same cables for less.
»www.pchcables.com/optotoopto.html |
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stevennbOk, But, Thats The Last Straw.Premium
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Wayne, NJ | reply to stevennb
Again I'm a video/audio schmuck when it comes to all of this stuff.
Me and the gf were at a friends house. He had his stereo connected to the tv and was able to watch movies/tv with the sound coming through the stereo.
She said it sounds a lot better than the tinny speakers in the tv.
So hopefully this will pacify her (that or I'll have to take her out for dinner again!). 
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| I find that most TVs have only basic sound capabilities. Pumping the audio to a receiver or HTIB should sound better than using the TV speakers.
Good luck. 
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said by BoulderHill1:This is not entirely true. As Rook and joako pointed out, 5.1 digital audio that is recieved into the tv via the HDMI is NOT passed on to the optical output. Only a mixed down stereo signal is available this way. The only 5.1 audio that comes out of the tv's optical is from the tv's own tuner such as over the air dolby digital broadcasts. I have to disagree with you. I have my Xbox 360 connected to my TV via an HDMI cable. There's no other cable (other than power, network, etc.) coming out of my Xbox. My TV is then connected to my receiver via an optical cable. When I'm playing an Xbox 360 game, my receiver says it's receiving a 5.1 Dolby Digital signal.
So, in essence, my TV is allowing the Dolby Digital signal from my Xbox 360 to be passed through to my receiver. |
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Da Man
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Hanover, PA | Might only downmix if HDCP is used. |
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| said by Da Man:Might only downmix if HDCP is used. That's certainly a possibility. I guess that means the Xbox 360 doesn't use HDCP. |
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1 edit | said by ajhaji:said by Da Man:Might only downmix if HDCP is used. That's certainly a possibility. I guess that means the Xbox 360 doesn't use HDCP. I'm guessing that the HDCP is a primary factor in this part of the equation.
I have set up a few dozen systems for friends, family and such and none of them have done what you describe your Dynex to be doing, passing 5.1 from HDMI in to optical out. It would be extremely nice if it did as it would eliminate a few cables and the need to switch audio input on the receiver unit.
That being said one major difference I see is that none of the setups I have helped with included a game console as a major part of the system. Typically it would be a Bluray player or DVD player with HDMI or cable set top boxes. Each one of these required the use of an optical cable going straight from the device to the audio receiving unit in order to get 5.1 audio. OF course each one of these devices is HDCP compliant.
XBOX is not a Bluray player but rather a HD-DVD player and I do not recall how well HD-DVD conformed to HDCP standards. This may be why the 5.1 gets passed in your set up.
That and the other thing is that you said it is while you are playing an XBOX game that you get the 5.1 at your reciever. That would be fine as who is going to record a game being played.
The reason that this digital audio does not get passed was as I said originally for DMCA compliance. People would be apt to record movies this way, but not game play. They did not want end users to have the ability to easily make digital to digital copies of copy protected material by just connecting the right equipment together.
I would be interested in the results if you were to connect a bluray player (or upconverting HDMI DVD player) to your DYNEX via HDMI and then see if you get 5.1 on your reciever via optical out from the TV. |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | it would make sense to have one cable to your home theater system. but thank the good ole crooked entertainment industry for putting their short sighted "logic" ahead of smart customer setup.
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said by BoulderHill1:I would be interested in the results if you were to connect a bluray player (or upconverting HDMI DVD player) to your DYNEX via HDMI and then see if you get 5.1 on your reciever via optical out from the TV. That would be a worthwhile experiment, except I don't own a DVD player or a Blu-ray player, and never will.
However, I do have an IPTV set-top box (Motorola VIP1216). It performs in the exact same way as my Xbox 360--it is connected with only an HDMI cable to the TV, and the TV is connected to the receiver with an optical cable. My receiver gets a Dolby Digital 5.1 signal from my TV set-top box whenever I'm watching an HD channel.
(However, the box is super buggy and the audio craps out every few minutes, but despite the problems, it basically works.) |
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2 edits | reply to ajhaji
I gotta agree with BoulderHill1, as we have had this conversation on this forum before. My owners manual, Samsung LN46A650, specifically states it will only pass 5.1 audio if from the TV's own tuner, not any other inputted signals. This may or may not be specified in some owners manuals, such as Sony, where you had to read/search the FAQs on their site to find out the same applied.
Most receivers also have some type of 5.1 conversion process when they receive a stereo signal via PCM such as Pro Logic II. It sure sounds better than stereo, and you get sound from all 5 speakers and the subwoofer like true 5.1 surround. Such as the signal from my cable box it is sent PCM stereo to the surround receiver via Toslink direct (not thru the TV), but while DTS lights up so does NEO6 which is the conversion for that type of signal (non-Dolby)
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