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Red Deer, AB
reply to TSI Martin

Re: Everything MLPPP

I'm interested in bonding two lines together. Never dealt with DSL before, been a cable man forever. I've heard of this MLPPP, but how exactly does it work? Reason I'm interested in it is for the upload speed. I need more than 1Mb upload, and I'm hoping I would be able to get more than 1Mb with this. I currently have one phone line with Telus, and my ISP is Shaw. I'm spending $96/month now for 25x2 (Warp tier), now I don't need that much download anyways. What kind of speeds could I see with this MLPPP, and what is the best way to go about doing this? Dry loop? ADSL? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Grande Prairie, AB
·TekSavvy DSL
PPP overhead is said to be ~10-14%, and you must consider the possibility that your phone lines won't be in perfect condition, and therefore you may not get top speed.

I'm on a pair of so-called 6/1 connections in Telus-land. My modems sync at 6144/896 and 6144/960. mlppp reduces your bond to a multiple of the slowest modem in the bundle, so my sync rate is effectively 2 * 6144/896 or 12,288/1792. My actual measured throughput (so not counting ppp overhead) is 10,500/1430.

I pay dry loop fees of $14.18 on each line, so my total bill is around $100 monthly. You're getting better speed for the money, but lower caps.

I don't know whether I might get higher sync rates if my line condition was better, but I expect that if you want more than 2 mbit u/l speed then you'll need at least 3 bonded Telus/TSI connections, best case. If you're still entertaining the idea and want to try it out, I recommend ordering one of Telus' first-month-free internet bundles. See what sync rates you get on the modems, then decide if it's worth pursuing (the second and third modems should get similar sync rates to the first).

If you really don't care about d/l speed then you could save a few bucks going with multiple 3/1 packages.

When you make the switch from Telus to TSI, expect Telus to mess it up. Your connection will be slow/unreliable/unusable, and you will have to call or message TSI many times to get it resolved. Telus will blame you or your equipment, but since you know the line worked when it was under a Telus account, you will have ammunition to go back and insist that they fix it. Once you get the first connection working well on TSI, repeat the process. In my experience you can get about 1 working connection per month this way.