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jeltz

join:2002-11-01
Chelsea, QC
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Free UK DIDs from numbergroup

Recently when I called a 03 number in the UK I discovered that voip.ms doesn't route calls to these numbers. I didn't know much about these numbers so I had to do a bit of research. As it turns out these aren't special numbers, they are a new "UK-wide" type of number that Ofcom has been allocating since 2007. You can call them from ALMOST any provider and they cost the same to call as normal 01 and 02 numbers (geographic landline numbers).

While I was looking I discovered a UK provider called Numbergroup.com (»www.numbergroup.com/content/Home.html) that is giving out free DIDs for 01, 02 and 03 numbers. What is nice is that they can forward to a SIP URI. I'm sure this provider isn't news to many of you so... my question(s) are:

Has anyone else here used them?

What has your experience been like?

I kind of like the idea of the 03 number and I don't know if it just because of how far they are through giving out the numbers but the choices to pick from seemed really nice and easy to remember.

jeltz

join:2002-11-01
Chelsea, QC

On the subject of free UK numbers... I also got a 01 number from Eutelia but I've heard of them before and it required some sipsorcery magic to get it working.



Arne Bolen
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reply to jeltz
Yesterday I ordered a DID, 03XXXXXXXXX, from Numbergroup.com. I found such a good easy-to-remember number I could not resist, it is impossible to forget the number.

As I mapped it to my VoIP.ms SIP address the invoice for my new 03 DID was £0.00 including VAT. Quite a good purchase.

My order confirmation said "We will be processing your order very soon". Today a few minutes ago a very nice and polite guy from Numbergroup called me on my new DID to inform me that my new DID now is connected and ready to use. That's really an excellent service considering I pay nothing for my new DID, I don't even pay for receiving calls.

The sound quality of the call was excellent, the best I ever experienced. It was so good sound quality it could compete with G722. Crystal clear sound with no background noise, no echo, no jitter.
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mazilo
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said by Arne Bolen:

As I mapped it to my VoIP.ms SIP address the invoice for my new 03 DID was £0.00 including VAT. Quite a good purchase.
Did you have to use sip: to map to your VoIP.ms SIP address or just the address itself?
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Arne Bolen
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said by mazilo:

Did you have to use sip: to map to your VoIP.ms SIP address or just the address itself?
I used sip: before the address to avoid any misunderstandings.

I assume you already have ordered a DID.
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mazilo
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said by Arne Bolen:

said by mazilo:

Did you have to use sip: to map to your VoIP.ms SIP address or just the address itself?
I used sip: before the address to avoid any misunderstandings.
Thanks.

I assume you already have ordered a DID.
When it is free, why not.

In my order, I didn't put in any SIP Address to forward to and left it empty. I figured it probably has its own SIP server with a SIP Address that one can configure on his/her ATA device or a PBX system.
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Arne Bolen
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said by mazilo:

In my order, I didn't put in any SIP Address to forward to and left it empty. I figured it probably has its own SIP server with a SIP Address that one can configure on his/her ATA device or a PBX system.
You have to forward your DID to a SIP address or a phone number.
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mazilo
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said by Arne Bolen:

said by mazilo:

In my order, I didn't put in any SIP Address to forward to and left it empty. I figured it probably has its own SIP server with a SIP Address that one can configure on his/her ATA device or a PBX system.
You have to forward your DID to a SIP address or a phone number.
Thanks and I will try that once my account gets approved.
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said by mazilo:

Thanks and I will try that once my account gets approved.
You could send an email with your SIP address. That way you might be able to experience the excellent sound quality when the rep calls you to confirm your DID is working.

I hope you found a good number.
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jeltz

join:2002-11-01
Chelsea, QC
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reply to mazilo

said by mazilo:

Did you have to use sip: to map to your VoIP.ms SIP address or just the address itself?
I put in my sip URI without sip:. They manually approve it and I suspect that you can do it both ways. I think they need something though.

mazilo
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reply to jeltz
In my registration, I included my contact number. So, in case there is a problem, I reckon they can call me.


jeltz

join:2002-11-01
Chelsea, QC
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reply to Arne Bolen

said by Arne Bolen:

Yesterday I ordered a DID, 03XXXXXXXXX, from Numbergroup.com. I found such a good easy-to-remember number I could not resist, it is impossible to forget the number.
Can you call it from voip.ms?


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said by jeltz:

Can you call it from voip.ms?
I made several test calls to my Numbergroup DID from the following phone providers:

VoIP.ms
Callcentric
Localphone
poivY
F9
Musimi
Telsome
My Lebara cell phone

Calls from VoIP.ms produced a busy signal and calls from Callcentric resulted in dead air at both ends.

Calls from the other six providers went through without any problem.

However, my test revealed large differences in call quality among the six providers, ranging from poor to very good.
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jeltz

join:2002-11-01
Chelsea, QC
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said by Arne Bolen:

Calls from VoIP.ms produced a busy signal and calls from Callcentric resulted in dead air at both ends.
Callcentric was pretty quick to fix the rates for 03 numbers when I brought a problem to their attention. If you let them know about the problem you have making the call I suspect they would try to fix it fairly quickly. I don't (yet) use Callcentric and wasn't able to use them to make a test call.

I had opened a ticket about the voip.ms problem but they think that the number is "premium" and they don't route premium calls. So I just opened a feature request that they should support 03 numbers as normal "non-premium" numbers.

said by Arne Bolen:

However, my test revealed large differences in call quality among the six providers, ranging from poor to very good.
I'm curious and would be interested hearing a "mini-review" of call quality from your testing.


Arne Bolen
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said by jeltz:

I had opened a ticket about the voip.ms problem but they think that the number is "premium" and they don't route premium calls. So I just opened a feature request that they should support 03 numbers as normal "non-premium" numbers.
I believe it is the carriers used by VoIP.ms not knowing UK 03 numbers now are ordinary land-lines.

There are still carriers believing that the land-line number range +4610XXXXXXX is a cell phone number range and thus charging a lot higher rate than they should do.

said by jeltz:

I'm curious and would be interested hearing a "mini-review" of call quality from your testing.
I will continue with more tests spread over several days to avoid temporary problems at the providers. When I am finished testing I will publish the results here.
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grand total

join:2005-10-26
ON, Canada
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said by Arne Bolen:

Yesterday I ordered a DID, 03XXXXXXXXX, from Numbergroup.com. I found such a good easy-to-remember number I could not resist, it is impossible to forget the number.
Ha, I think I know the number you mean. Perhaps, I'll call it and see if I'm right!
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said by grand total:

Ha, I think I know the number you mean. Perhaps, I'll call it and see if I'm right!
You are always welcome to try to see if you got the correct number. Just remember anonymous calls are blocked.

My number is so easy-to-remember that I would be prepared to pay a subscription fee in order to keep it.
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gbh2o

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Thanks for the lead Arne. I signed up for one that will be easy to find also... with just a bit of thought. I had to change it from pointing to voip.ms (always busy) to a sip address on one of my local machines.

Beware! Jody did ask me where I found out about them, and I pointed to DSLr.


mazilo
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said by gbh2o:

Beware! Jody did ask me where I found out about them, and I pointed to DSLr.
It won't hurt to let her know. Actually, it will do good to NumberGroup because the more they let go their DID#s, the more incoming calls will pour in and the more ₤₤₤₤ it will accumulate.
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ohmer

join:2003-08-06
Quebec, QC

reply to jeltz
How do you format your canadian phone number when they ask at which number they can contact you? The form validator don't accept my phone number as valid...


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