Rate my ~$700 Gaming PC (newegg)

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MUT308 Premium join:2001-02-07 Lawrence, KS	Rate my ~$700 Gaming PC (newegg) I won't be purchasing a new gaming PC for another 4-5 weeks, but here's my first draft. I already have 2x1TB SATA hard drives, a monitor (1680x1050 20" Apple Cinema Display), keyboard (Logitech G15), and mouse (Logitech MX518). MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130275 AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19103849 Combo: 365.98 EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130339 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···17139006 Combo: 229.98 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20231275 Price: $94.99 ATX Mid-tower w/ 3 fans included »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···11147144 24x DVD Multi »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···27106335 Combo: 53.98 Total: $744.93 + $13.85 ship - $45 MIR = $713.78 As you can see, I tried to take advantage of combo offers. My goal here is to build a system that is not only quite powerful at the moment, but shies just enough way from some really high end specs that I can upgrade things one at a time, very, very slowly. The video card will be first, followed by the RAM, but the rest is golden for a long time as far as I can tell. Games: Borderlands, Mass Effect 2, CoD: MW2, WoW (dual box on one system), Crysis, Steam's stuff Other things I'll actively be running: Windows 7 64-bit, many tabs of Google Chrome, iTunes, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Filezilla, uTorrent, Skype, Microsoft Security Essentials, VLC. Thoughts? -- »will.mx
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 3 edits	Looks nice but, I didn't care for the case or the PSU..the psu because its not modular..you are going to have a nice time dealing with all the cables in that small case you picked out, I didn't look but you better hope that case has cable management behind the motherboard. And this brings me to the case..the cable management issue and overall the case is a budget one..so it will probably act like one to. I personally would look into the Coolermaster HAF series, why skip out on the case when that part is the one that lasts the longest in your build? The HAF 932 is a excellent buy, I know because I have it, and I'm glad I did get it. Only thing I could bring down about the HAF series is the stock fans..while they do work their rated CFM is a straight out lie. I have replaced all the stock fans and actually just bought a different set of fans for the case door as I wanted more CFM than the ones I did put on. You can put on (4) 120mm fans on the door. Edit: I know about the PSU because that's the one I bought for my case and even I wished I didn't buy it for that its not modular..I actually plan to buy a 850W Corsair modular soon. Edit: 2 As far as the GPU goes..I would look on Overclock.net for sale thread here: »www.overclock.net/video/ You can find some good deals there, alot better than what you'd get for your money buying that new gpu from newegg.
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Margolis Premium join:2003-11-24 Saint Louis, MO	reply to MUT308 I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli.
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Krisnatharok Caveat Emptor Premium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:3 Reviews: ·Comcast	said by Margolis: I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli. This ^^ You want DX11 -- All the wealthy, unhappy people you've ever met take sleeping pills; Mobile Infantrymen don't need them. Give a cap trooper a bunk and time to sack out in it, and he's as happy as a worm in an apple—asleep.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 1 edit	reply to Margolis said by Margolis: I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli. The board he picked out doesn't do SLI, but Crossfire. So buying 2 Nvidia cards is out. I would recommend either a ati 5850 (in Crossfire) or a single 5870, with a 8800GT/9800GT as a second card for Nvidias PhysX. (I get mine tomorrow.)
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Margolis Premium join:2003-11-24 Saint Louis, MO	said by ztmike: [The board he picked out doesn't do SLI, but Crossfire. So buying 2 Nvidia cards is out. I would recommend either a ati 5850 (in Crossfire) or a single 5870, with a 8800GT/9800GT as a second card for Nvidias PhysX. (I get mine tomorrow.) ahh, ok. I would switch motherboards then to a board that does either crossfire or sli and then get the 460 seriously though, the guy is trying to save money initially with a cheap card. The 460 is $200-$230. You are recommending $300-$500 video cards.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 1 edit	said by Margolis: said by ztmike: [The board he picked out doesn't do SLI, but Crossfire. So buying 2 Nvidia cards is out. I would recommend either a ati 5850 (in Crossfire) or a single 5870, with a 8800GT/9800GT as a second card for Nvidias PhysX. (I get mine tomorrow.) ahh, ok. I would switch motherboards then to a board that does either crossfire or sli and then get the 460 seriously though, the guy is trying to save money initially with a cheap card. The 460 is $200-$230. You are recommending $300-$500 video cards. Because in the end he will end up paying more buying a cheap card now then going out [again] and buying one he truly wants. As far as switching boards to get SLI, why? Maybe he doesn't want Nvidia in SLI. Stop trying to shove it down the guys throat.
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Margolis Premium join:2003-11-24 Saint Louis, MO 1 edit	said by ztmike: Because in the end he will end up paying more buying a cheap card now then going out [again] and buying one he truly wants. except getting a second 460 puts you with a setup that will beat a gtx480 or a 5870 for less money. said by ztmike: As far as switching boards to get SLI, why? Maybe he doesn't want Nvidia in SLI. Stop trying to shove it down the guys throat. first off, I'm not trying to shove sli down his throat. I just made a suggestion as was asked and tried to keep the cost down. When you pointed out that it wouldn't support sli, I made another suggestion. Another reason to switch to a board that does sli or crossfire is that way you can use whatever is best and not worry about having the wrong board. But the best reason yet is because it apparently pisses you off.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 1 edit	said by Margolis: said by ztmike: Because in the end he will end up paying more buying a cheap card now then going out [again] and buying one he truly wants. except getting a second 460 puts you with a setup that will beat a gtx480 or a 5870 for less money. said by ztmike: As far as switching boards to get SLI, why? Maybe he doesn't want Nvidia in SLI. Stop trying to shove it down the guys throat. first off, I'm not trying to shove sli down his throat. I just made a suggestion as was asked and tried to keep the cost down. When you pointed out that it wouldn't support sli, I made another suggestion. Another reason to switch to a board that does sli or crossfire is that way you can use whatever is best and not worry about having the wrong board. But the best reason yet is because it apparently pisses you off. Well to me it sounds like your pushing Nvidia on him. As far as a (2) GTX 460 beating a GTX 480..I'd like to see proof of that. From what I've seen doing SLI/Crossfire doesn't necessarily mean higher FPS, granted you will see some improvement but that is mostly for multiple monitor setups. I don't think he would see his moneys worth on 1 monitor doing more than 1 GPU. If I was him I would be looking at the link I gave some posts up to the Overclock.net for sale section and look for a used GTX 470 or a 5870. O and buying 2 GTX 460s wouldn't be cheaper than getting a 470 or a 5870.
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MUT309 @pacific.net.hk	reply to MUT308 Hey this is the OP, MUT308. I'm at the Hong Kong airport at the moment and will have extremely limited internet access for the next two weeks, and not much time right now, so I can't go indepth into my response. Thanks for the replies! No worries, I don't feel anyone's shoving anything down my throat. Any and all information is helpful because it's been awhile since I've built a PC from scratch. It's true that I'm trying to build a high-endish system on a budget, so I'm skimping on things that aren't terrible important at the moment, like extreme high-end video card capabilities. I only have a single monitor, at 1680x1050, and I've been using a 9600 GT for a few months, which has suited me just fine. But you do have some good points...I may upgrade the card. I was a long-time ATI devotee, simply because I was familiar with the product line progression, but after trying out Nvidia, I have no qualms about either one. I just want the best bang for my buck, both short term and long term. A friend of mine said he had heard that Intel Quad cores perform better than AMD Six-cores, so I'll be looking into that when I get a chance too. Anyway, I'll be back in the conversation in a few weeks. Peace!
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hellrazzer24 join:2002-06-21 united state Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable	I just got an ATI 5770... and its fantastic. Running Starcraft II with all the eye candy and theres not a single hiccup. Its also in your price range. I was running SCII on the 9600 during the beta and I lagged often. Food for thought. If you are worried about cost, I think you could easily get away with using the Corsair TX650 instead of the TX750. That should cover the cost increase of from the 9800gt to the 5770. About the CPU, if you want bang for the buck, then I think the AMD Phenom line is your choice. They have great Performance/Price ratios (better than Intels »www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cp···cpuvalue). Unless you go for the i7, I think your X6 or an X4 should be good.
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cbrigante2 Cubs 20?? Premium join:2002-11-22 North Aurora, IL	reply to ztmike Here is the proof on the pair of Gt 460s beating the 480 (by a wide margin I might add): »www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gef···694.html
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poppster Tell the truth and then run. Premium join:2003-12-23 Midwest kudos:1 1 edit	reply to MUT308 I have that same case along with a X3 435 Rana at 3.4ghz, 4GB DDR3 Patriot gamer, Two 4850's in crossfire, and this motherboard, »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130250 Pretty awesome system. BTW, the case is awesome, I absolutely love it! Probably one of the best that I've ever used.
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Tempus45 Premium join:2006-07-08 USA	reply to MUT308 + 1 460, if you can get the ATI 5850
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Vamp9190 Premium join:2002-02-11 Chantilly, VA kudos:1	reply to MUT308 Sounds like you have a good plan. But I agree, go with a better GPU, I second the 5850 or similar. Personally I think an i7 is the way to go on the CPU. Do you have a Micro Center near you? They were selling the i7 930 (~290 on NewEgg) for $199. You can then get an open box ASUS P6X58D-E for like $180.
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Octavean Premium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1	reply to MUT309 quote: The 1090T does fall down a bit when it comes to games, as it performs on par with the X4 955 which is $155. As such, its ratio is inferior to other, more budget oriented CPUs. »www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=91···t&pid=12 I too think the Core i7 line would be a wise choice as well. The Core i7 950 will presumably drop from ~$580 to the Core i7 entry level price of ~$300 USD soon. Many buyers can acquire a Core i7 930 now for ~$200 USD or a Core i7 860 for ~$230 at Microcenter. If you want an unlocked chip the Core i7 875K can often be had for about ~$330. All of which are quite competitive with and often outperform the Phenom II X6 line.
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acid343211 Hallo lisa Aus Amerika Premium join:2001-08-31 Byron, GA	reply to Margolis said by Margolis: I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli. Like this one? »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130562 -- Support »www.minutemanproject.com/
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Margolis Premium join:2003-11-24 Saint Louis, MO	said by acid343211: said by Margolis: I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli. Like this one? »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130562 no, more like this one: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130565 the 1GB model is better overall, especially if you are going to game at 1920x1080
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acid343211 Hallo lisa Aus Amerika Premium join:2001-08-31 Byron, GA	said by Margolis: said by acid343211: said by Margolis: I would trash the 9800 and spend a little more and get a gtx460. Then in the future if you decided that wasn't good enough, just get a second for sli. Like this one? »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130562 no, more like this one: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130565 the 1GB model is better overall, especially if you are going to game at 1920x1080 Yeah i seen that one cheap as chips.. The thread authors motherboard is well in my Opinion low in quality... -- Support »www.minutemanproject.com/
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Konceptz Intel join:2001-12-22 Chesterfield, VA Reviews: ·Comcast ·Clearwire	reply to Octavean said by Octavean: quote: The 1090T does fall down a bit when it comes to games, as it performs on par with the X4 955 which is $155. As such, its ratio is inferior to other, more budget oriented CPUs. »www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=91···t&pid=12 I too think the Core i7 line would be a wise choice as well. The Core i7 950 will presumably drop from ~$580 to the Core i7 entry level price of ~$300 USD soon. Many buyers can acquire a Core i7 930 now for ~$200 USD or a Core i7 860 for ~$230 at Microcenter. If you want an unlocked chip the Core i7 875K can often be had for about ~$330. All of which are quite competitive with and often outperform the Phenom II X6 line. I have to recommend the i7 860 or i7 875k...there is no reason to have 1136 i7 or triple channel DDR3, the gains are only noticeable on a benchmark, or if you want to get the most out of an SLI setup, but again even that is marginal. The AMD X6 chip only excels in heavily threaded apps like HD video encoding and the likes. -- Last Result: Download Speed: 24608 kbps (3076 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 22675 kbps (2834.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
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