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Gdadkins

join:2009-05-11
Mantachie, MS

Proof is in the pudding (or lack of)

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.


tiger72
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said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts. Some places, like Peoria, IL and Manhattan, KS actually got T-Mobile 3g before ATT 3g - even though ATT had a 3 year head start rolling out its 3g services. There's a thread on howardforums which details ATT's rollouts and it's pretty clear that they're working on expanding 3g coverage.
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Gdadkins

join:2009-05-11
Mantachie, MS
More availability and options the better imo. Sprint's coverage still lacks around in this area too.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to Gdadkins
I have AT&T, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.


88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to tiger72
said by tiger72:

said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts.
Too little too late. My area still doesn't have at&t 3G within 60 miles of me. Verizon's 3G has been here for 3 years. I'll see LTE from Verizon before I see 3G from at&t. Crap like that is why the vast majority of people here have Verizon service even though at&t regular cell service has the same coverage and quality.


tiger72
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said by 88615298:

said by tiger72:

said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either. Maybe they slowed down their 3G coverage in hopes LTE would provide better range/penetration/coverage....

I have Verizon, so it doesn't bother me either way since I enjoy 3G everywhere I go.
ATT actually has sped back up their 3g rollouts.
Too little too late. My area still doesn't have at&t 3G within 60 miles of me. Verizon's 3G has been here for 3 years. I'll see LTE from Verizon before I see 3G from at&t. Crap like that is why the vast majority of people here have Verizon service even though at&t regular cell service has the same coverage and quality.
I doubt that. Verizon has had the advantage of being able to upgrade its same digital network for the past 15 years. CDMAOne->CDMA2000-> EVDO are all upgrades to the exact same network. ATT (and TMO) have had to overlay their 2g networks with 3g coverage. In essence, Verizon is running one network, and has been running and expanding it for 15 years. ATT is running two. With LTE, Verizon's back at square one just like ATT and TMO were when they rolled out their 3g. They're now forced to overlay their existing network with a brand-spankin new one. New backend. New radios. New frequency.

So, are you more likely to get Verizon LTE than ATT 3g? Maybe. Maybe not. After looking at the map, you probably won't be seeing mobile speeds above 2.6mbps anytime soon by ANY provider - and that's assuming you're even getting good EvDO speeds in the first place.
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jhacker

join:2001-12-11
Peoria, IL
reply to tiger72
Yeah, I liked to make fun of all the iPhone suckers that were complaining about lack of 3G and MMS. I think AT&T FINALLY got 3G here about December of last year. The main reason I haven't adopted the iPhone is that AT&T is the sole choice. They appear to be a company that lets the competition pass them up when it comes to new technology. I'm glad to say I don't do business with them.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to Gdadkins
said by Gdadkins:

If their LTE market deployment rate is like their 3G rate, then I think it would safe to say if you don't have 3G now, you won't have LTE either.
In Illinois they extended 3G coverage from Chicago metro area to south within I-55 highway and its bigger villages/towns.

fiberguy
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reply to tiger72
At least Verizon is actually doing, and not "sitting back, waiting".. which is a slam to the consumer's face and to the public in general in which it got spectrum from in order TO build out the next gen network.

Don't you see any issue with that?


Gbcue
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reply to Gdadkins
I'll believe the AT&T HSPA+ when I see it.

It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
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runzero

join:2005-09-16
DC
reply to en102
That's not really surprising considering you live in the Los Angeles metro area.
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sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy:

At least Verizon is actually doing, and not "sitting back, waiting".. which is a slam to the consumer's face and to the public in general in which it got spectrum from in order TO build out the next gen network.

Don't you see any issue with that?
Who are you and what happened to the real fiberguy?

ssavoy
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Dallas, PA
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reply to tiger72
For what it's worth, AT&T 3G launched in my area about two months ago and it's consistently significantly faster than Verizon (think...2-2.5x faster). A typical Droid can't suck down more than 800-1000kbps on VZ in this area and I just peaked at 3.4mbps on AT&T.

And honestly I wanted to really see how fast Verizon 3G was in a rural area (full "3G"). Yeah, 125kbps down and 47kbps up. Basically EDGE with a 3G icon.

There's a difference between the 3G icon and actual 3G speeds. So if there's anything I have to say about Verizon, it's that they can easily deploy LTE and not really have "LTE"-like bandwidth to support it.
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fiberguy
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said by sonicmerlin:

said by fiberguy:

At least Verizon is actually doing, and not "sitting back, waiting".. which is a slam to the consumer's face and to the public in general in which it got spectrum from in order TO build out the next gen network.

Don't you see any issue with that?
Who are you and what happened to the real fiberguy?
lol


FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
reply to Gdadkins
Mmm, high speed next generation pudding......

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reply to Gbcue
said by Gbcue:

I'll believe the AT&T HSPA+ when I see it.

It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
AT&T has already been deploying the equipment for this last year to the market's they have planned, that way they can activate it all at once and throw it in everyone's face's. It takes a long time for T-Mobile to do anything because they are the smallest wireless provider in the US with the smallest network and least amount of money. If AT&T really wanted to throw all their egg's in one basket they could beat VZW to the punch and have their whole network overlaid by 2012 if they really wanted.
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iLive4Fusion
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reply to Gbcue
said by Gbcue:

I'll believe the AT&T HSPA+ when I see it.

It's taken T-Mobile a good part of the whole of 2010 to get where its at right now with HSPA+ and AT&T expects for it to get done in a single quarter? That's laughable, at best!
Apparently the backhaul is in place's in part's of the US because a user on HowardForums was able to achieve 6+mbps on an HSPA iPhone which isn't even an HSPA+ phone. I am getting 4mbps right now, 6 is right in line with what a lot of T-Mobile HSPA+ customer's are getting.


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