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Aids

@comcast.net

So I received two Comcast copyrights infringement letters.

Ok so this is the first time I received it but I got 2 letters in the mail about it. Not really sure what to do here or how serious these letters are. Obviously lesson learned here but I'm pretty sure Comcast and RIAA doesn't care whether you learned from your mistakes or not. So I'm just wondering if I should just call them up about it or kind of let it be and don't use torrents anymore. Any suggestions other than not use torrents anymore since that's an obvious.

Thing I'm confused about is the infringement time-stamp that it mentions in the letter. For example in one of the letter it's an episode of The Office and the initial time-stamp is 13th December and the recent infringement time-stamp is 29th December. Does that mean I've been getting warnings from that time period? I didn't receive any letters during that time period however. I know I left the file seeding at 1kbps all this while whenever I open my torrent client so is that just counting the amount I've uploaded of that file in that time period?

So yeah, any suggestions would be helpful.



gar187er
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#1- dont share torrents...thats how you get caught
#2- dont use torrents for a while....
#3- see number #2
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Aids

@comcast.net

Ok I got that, kind of late for it now but should I even bother calling them up or will that make it worse? I've been reading that they send out an email first but since I've never activated the email I don't even know what it is so I never got to check the email first. The fact that I've received two letters in the mail is kind of bothering me now.



Rob
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Don't call - just let it go. Comcast really doesn't care, but they feel obligated to let you know since the copyright holder notified Comcast.



Aids

@ctc.edu

Well what I'm worried about is that I was sharing it for so long cause I forgot to stop seeding it and it's not just one file, it was two files. I've been reading that you can send a counter notice which I was thinking on doing but will that make things worse?



Tordek
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Counter notices tend to mean that you are contesting your notice.

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Dagobert

join:2011-01-11

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reply to Tordek

Re: So I received two Comcast copyrights infringement letters.

So is that a good or a bad thing to do in this case?


krommulent

join:2010-04-07
reply to Aids

in a three day period i received 75 letters regarding filesharing seeding. i have since stopped using those programs and they have left me alone. I do pop up and grab something that i REALLY want on occasion and have not heard back if that helps.


AVonGauss
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reply to Aids

Not saying any further action will be taken, but it can take a while (years) for additional action to be filed.



Tordek
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reply to Dagobert

I would say that sending a counter notice would be a bad thing.

I know when i used to get the bay TSP emails all the time i would reply that i complied and in the notes put "At this time in Canada, it is legal to download but not to Upload. I have removed this file from my network but not from my storage"

I even got a thank you email from bay TSP for complying with their request and making them aware of Canadian guidelines.

If anything i would send a notice that you complied.. this would make them happier i would imagine.
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Tordek
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reply to Aids

said by Aids :

Thing I'm confused about is the infringement time-stamp that it mentions in the letter. For example in one of the letter it's an episode of The Office and the initial time-stamp is 13th December and the recent infringement time-stamp is 29th December. Does that mean I've been getting warnings from that time period? I didn't receive any letters during that time period however. I know I left the file seeding at 1kbps all this while whenever I open my torrent client so is that just counting the amount I've uploaded of that file in that time period?

How the bastards investigators catch you is by uploading. Basically they go to a torrent and then look in their bit torrent program at all the pretty seeders that they are getting the file from. They make a note of the IP, contact the ISP, then bam notice sent.

The timestamps mean that... one of the investigators began a download of the office on December 13th, and your IP was on the seed list. So the time stamp just means when you were caught. I do NOT seed at least not nothing more then i have to.. I limit to 1kbps and max download.... The second the file is done i stop sharing.. I'm a greedy one...
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Dagobert

join:2011-01-11
reply to Tordek

So would it be better if I called Comcast and let them know I got the letter and the file is deleted or whatever?



beachintech
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said by Dagobert:

So would it be better if I called Comcast and let them know I got the letter and the file is deleted or whatever?

No, Comcast doesn't care. You can contact the people outlined in the letter or just let it go. It's not comcast that got you in trouble or that is sending you legal notices.
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Dagobert

join:2011-01-11

Yeah I know it wasn't them but yeah nevermind. I guess I'll let it go and hopefully nothing happens. Damn lesson learned lol, first thing I'm doing when I get home is uninstall that damn utorrent client.



dslcreature
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join:2010-07-10
Seattle, WA

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reply to Aids

As the chorus says your best bet is to ignore it.

What is happening is that comcast is receiving a DMCA letter and forwarding it on to you based on their knowledge of your IP Address as it correlates with the details of the DMCA letter.

The media company *does not* know who you are (until comcast receives a court order and is forced to tell them who you are) it is in your best interests to keep it that way.

You can tell comcast your sorry but this just sinks their time.

The worst thing one can possibly do is contact the media company or file a counter-claim even if you are innocent. The innocent can still be forced to waste their own time and resources defending themselves.


xsquid40

join:2010-03-18
Staunton, IL
reply to Dagobert

Reponses

I recommend you don't respond to the letter that you received, whether it was one or two or more. The ISP sends these because they are required to. Believe me, would rather not, it is a huge time drain on them to research the requests, get the address, prep the letter and track who they sent them to.....all things they are required to do to have Safe Harbor under the DMCA. Sending them a letter back sucks for them as they have to file it.

Just my .02



sortofageek
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reply to Aids

Re: So I received two Comcast copyrights infringement letters.

This FAQ links to some of the threads we have seen here in regard to copyright infringement, FWIW.
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scared

@mycingular.net
reply to krommulent

Re: So I received two Comcast copyrights infringement letters.

I just received a third email from comcast and it really has me scared. Im not even the one downloading its my husband. I told him to stop after we received the first two (they came at the same time) but appearantly he downloaded some more. He promised me no more but should i be worried? The account is in my name thats why im asking.



gar187er
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id lay into him.....remember the mother who got sued cause her kids were the ones downloading?

its whose name is on the account....
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scared

@mycingular.net

Oh i have and he said it would never happen again. What worries me is that i may get two more emails. He told me he downloaded two more things since the last email. Im afraid they will sue me. Im freaked out so bad my stomach has been hurting for the past two days.


rugby
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I think this is a marital issue and not a technology issue at this point.



scared

@mycingular.net

I didnt ask what i should do about my husband i asks about getting sued. Has anybody ever got more than three of these email? Did anything happen? Has anyone been sued and if so how many did they receive?


brawney
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reply to rugby

If I wanted to block this kind of traffic from coming in or out of my house, what might I do in my router to block it? I guess I'm more concerned about someone in the house sharing their stuff (outgoing) but it sounds like incoming is just as serious of a legal issue.

We don't do it, don't need it and I would like to block it on my connection. Suggestions appreciated.



Tordek
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reply to scared

said by scared :

I didnt ask what i should do about my husband i asks about getting sued. Has anybody ever got more than three of these email? Did anything happen? Has anyone been sued and if so how many did they receive?

I haven't personally heard of anyone in the US... here in Canada someone was and sentenced to jail time for copyright infringement.

I wouldn't be asking after how many... i would be more or less attempting to stop the activity at this time. Your at 3 which means Comcast can technically terminate your service for persistent copyright infringement, and you are now in the position in which you can be sued...

someone could have 20 notices but if the particular company that is handling your issues decides to submit you, then there's the lawsuit... it's up to the third-party company who does the tracking.

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As Rugby said... even though you didn't ask... you NEED to stop the transfer at it's source.. which is your husband, and a marital issue..

Sorry but them's the breaks...
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Tordek
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reply to brawney

said by brawney:

If I wanted to block this kind of traffic from coming in or out of my house, what might I do in my router to block it? I guess I'm more concerned about someone in the house sharing their stuff (outgoing) but it sounds like incoming is just as serious of a legal issue.

We don't do it, don't need it and I would like to block it on my connection. Suggestions appreciated.

Not very easy... See most programs randomize the port upon connection, so it's not exactly like you can block the ports in the router. (The point of this was to break ISP filtering/throttling ports)

Some routers allow QoS to de-prioritize the P2P protocol. It would not stop it just slow it down.

Other routers allow you to use the firewall on the router to block specific protocols. If this is the case, then it may work for your needs. But again, the systems are designed in such a way to try and circumvent any blocks (to prevent ISP's from blocking torrents) after all... a CMTS is just a big blow-your-frickin-mind-with-settings router...

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And believe it or not, sending is about 100% worse... because you are then aiding the transmission of copyrighted works... It's like possession of drugs is one crime.. and trafficking drugs is another... and the trafficking is always alot worse :P
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BLSComcast

join:2010-11-11
Barrow, AK
reply to Aids

I use newsgroup. Its only like $8 a month for those unlimited download. Foreign movies and pawn, I use torrent. If you can do this, then all is fine!


noisefloor

join:2010-05-09
reply to Aids

There are easy ways to help protect yourself while using P2P apps. All I will say is google is your friend...


BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to Aids

It's unfortunate Comcast has to waste their time doing this junk. I understand actual law enforcement work where there is child pornography, violent threats, hacking, etc, but this is really unfortunate.

Comcast certainly isn't a fan of torrent, but it does make them money by selling fast internet, so they must have a love/hate relationship with it.