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MEohME

@wideopenwest.com
reply to openbox9

Re: Instead of Obamacare.....

People actually want the National Health Care plan. That healthcare plan actually helps you in the long wrong. You know what happens when you hit your insurance cap currently? They drop you. ALL insurance companies have that cap. There are many people that have hit that cap and still do today. The National Health Care plan helps get rid of that cap over a period of a few years to help you and the kids of the future as health care costs rise. Do you really know how much it costs to treat a child with cancer figuring the child could live to their 70s? It is NOT cheap. Would you want to pay for that? I'm sure you wouldn't and by getting rid of the cap your own child could even obtain and afford healthcare in the long run if that would happen to them.

And nobody wants national fiber except BBR. The costs to deploy such a FTTH network to everyone is NOT feasible. Qwest would even tell you and provide the numbers on such a deal.

travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
said by MEohME :

ALL insurance companies have that cap.

No, they don't. You may have such a plan, but i can assure you that many plans do not have caps.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

1 recommendation

reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :

The costs to deploy such a FTTH network to everyone is NOT feasible. Qwest would even tell you and provide the numbers on such a deal.

I call BS on that one. Heck, with copper costs rising, deploying fiber would probably be cheaper now.

Just deploy it in stages, not the whole darn thing at once.

..and do you actually believe everything that Qwest/CenturyTel tells you?

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :

People actually want the National Health Care plan. That healthcare plan actually helps you in the long wrong.

Uh huh...keep telling yourself that
said by MEohME :

And nobody wants national fiber except BBR.

Wow, we agree????


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

1 recommendation

reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :

That healthcare plan actually helps you in the long wrong.

And nobody wants national fiber except BBR. The costs to deploy such a FTTH network to everyone is NOT feasible. Qwest would even tell you and provide the numbers on such a deal.

Ya-da-ya-da we have heard all this before, The answer is fix what is wrong don't destroy the whole system.

A national broad band system would be a fantastic investment in the nation infrastructure and in the long run would enhance tax revenues. Oh and look and see what can be done using a modern high-speed internet for health care. hint; check out the Indian Health Service in Alaska.

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
reply to travelguy
said by travelguy:

said by MEohME :

ALL insurance companies have that cap.

No, they don't. You may have such a plan, but i can assure you that many plans do not have caps.

But, as it stands, you can't choose your plan, not in any meaningful way, so if your employer's plan is crappy, you're essentially stuck. You could change jobs, but good luck doing that in this economy.


BHNtechXpert
BHN Staff
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join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:153
reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :

People actually want the National Health Care plan. That healthcare plan actually helps you in the long wrong. You know what happens when you hit your insurance cap currently? They drop you. ALL insurance companies have that cap. There are many people that have hit that cap and still do today. The National Health Care plan helps get rid of that cap over a period of a few years to help you and the kids of the future as health care costs rise. Do you really know how much it costs to treat a child with cancer figuring the child could live to their 70s? It is NOT cheap. Would you want to pay for that? I'm sure you wouldn't and by getting rid of the cap your own child could even obtain and afford healthcare in the long run if that would happen to them.

And nobody wants national fiber except BBR. The costs to deploy such a FTTH network to everyone is NOT feasible. Qwest would even tell you and provide the numbers on such a deal.

Where do you come up with this nonsense? I was perfectly happy with the insurance I had (no caps btw) and now I'm paying twice as much for it with a company not of my choice all because of Obamacare and Obamanomics. I do not at all appreciate you leftys shoving things down my throat I neither wanted, voted for nor can this country afford. You want to save the world...start in your own backyard and stay the hell out of my wallet and my decision making process. Get it? Good...
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"I can’t give you a surefire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time."
~ Herbert Bayard Swope

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
Yeah I noticed the healthcare in private industry went down. Not just prices raised up (which normally they do every year). They stopped offering plans with lower deductibles. They used to offer PPO 500, 250 and even 0 deductible in individual market (in Illinois), now they offer minimum $1500 min deductible in the same price range and its probably higher now.

Look at New York, Massachusetts who have highly regulated insurance. In New York it is the most expensive, they run minimum at $1200 a month if you don't have one sponsored through employer.

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

1 recommendation

reply to MEohME
said by MEohME :

And nobody wants national fiber except BBR. The costs to deploy such a FTTH network to everyone is NOT feasible. Qwest would even tell you and provide the numbers on such a deal.

Uh right, that's why there was such a frenzy over Google's FTTH plans, and there are numerous communities pushing for muni fiber.

Australia is even less dense than America and they're pushing fiber to 93% of their populace. Rural fiber deployments have demonstrated the cost difference between muni and rural fiber is insignificant, in large part thanks to the fact that almost all rural houses are situated along a main road. You don't have to pull fiber or dig trenches out in the middle of nowhere.

The beauty of national FTTH is that it pays for itself over time, and subsequently becomes a new source of revenue for the government. That means less taxes for everyone in the long run, and significantly less expensive broadband prices in the short run since no one has to pay the private duopoly tax that pays for the CEOs' huge bonuses.


GeeWhizBang

@comcast.net
reply to BHNtechXpert
The fact that you call it "Obamacare" indicates that you are informed mostly by FAUX news. Secondly, the National Health Care Plan is not what liberals wanted anyway. If we had our way, we'd be on a single payer plan or Medicare for all.

Nevertheless despite all of the BS churned up by FAUX news, the tea-partiers, and the various astroturf groups funded by the Koch Brothers, there are some pretty good things in the new health care bill.

If you are complaining about your costs going up, tho, perhaps you should have supported the public option, which was important to keep the prices down. The problem with the recent legislation is not that it went too far, it didn't go far enough. But it is still far better than doing nothing.