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[NCAA-F] Unhappy Valley

»www.timesleader.com/news/ap?arti···=7946866

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A former defensive coach who was integral for decades to Penn State's football success was accused Saturday of molesting eight boys, and two school administrators were charged with failing to tell police when a witness told them he saw a boy being sexually assaulted in the shower.

Former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, 67, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, according to the office of the state attorney general, Linda Kelly. She called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

Though reports surfaced months ago that Sandusky was being investigated, the case took on an added dimension Saturday when Penn State's athletic director, Tim Curley, 57, and vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, were charged with perjury. Both were expected to turn themselves in on Monday in Harrisburg.
There's some graphic stuff described in the article; just a heads up. And there are incidents being investigated and charged that run over a course of quite a few years.

Supposedly the only incident Paterno knew about he reported, but his superiors did nothing about it.
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It is unfortunate about the pervert getting away with it for so long, but any large organization may have to deal with a rogue employee. But where Penn State is really going to get hammered is the actions of administrators doing a cover up so their school's reputation wasn't besmirched. They cared more about how it would look than about the victims. And for that they are going to pay out millions for losing lawsuits. And the 2 admins should lose their jobs, spend time in jail, and be bankrupted by law suits.

Grand Jury charges:
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Mike Wise is a pretty good sports writer; I've been reading him for years.

This is the most disturbing part of the article:

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According to the attorney general’s office, in 2002 a graduate student assistant went to Paterno’s home the day after he saw Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in the shower late at night at Lasch Football Building on the Penn State campus. Paterno told Curley the next day.

About 10 days after the incident, Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant who had witnessed the abuse. Their executive action, according to the grand jury report: They told Sandusky that he could not bring any children from his foundation into the football building any more.

No one from Penn State — not Paterno, not the human neckties, no one — ever reported the alleged incident to law enforcement, which the grand jury report says is required under Pennsylvania law
15 years of abusing kids, people in the program knowing about it, and nobody reporting it to police.
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Joe Paterno should have sounded the alarm if sordid tale is true; time to sack Paterno
If allegations are true, somebody has to go

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Sure doesn't look good that Paterno had info about child molestation by a fellow who was an associate and thought the limit of his responsibility was to tell a PSU official and then forget it.
I am betting he makes the decision to retire very soon .

Looks like the AD and VP for Business Operations have taken a hike.

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said by Rojo_P:

Sure doesn't look good that Paterno had info about child molestation by a fellow who was an associate and thought the limit of his responsibility was to tell a PSU official and then forget it.

You could say the same for the grad student.
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You can say the same for everyone in the program who ever heard about it or witnessed it. How does someone not report stuff like this to the police?
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Part of me has to wonder, what the grad student saw and what/how he described it to Paterno. If the grad student saw this (sexual assault) happening, why didn't he stop it when it was happening?
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Fooled my ass...Lying sack of garbage.

“Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential,” Paterno’s statement read. “The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.”
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That has left even the coach’s most ardent fans wondering why he didn’t do more. Nothing came of the 2002 incident and Sandusky was allowed to live free for another 9½ years, where he went on to abuse more victims according to Linda Kelly, the Pennsylvania attorney general.
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By the following statement taken from the article it appears Paterno has made a deal to be a prosecution witness in exchange for no charges to be bought against him. Too bad I say due to they should all be charged and fired...it is not like the prosecutors need testimony from Paterno to convict Sandusky the pig...they have more than enough on the creep....plus I am of the opinion that it will never reach trial due to him taken himself out instead of standing trial.....

"Paterno is in no legal trouble and the Patriot-News reports he will be a prosecution witness in the case."

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Part of me has to wonder, what the grad student saw and what/how he described it to Paterno. If the grad student saw this (sexual assault) happening, why didn't he stop it when it was happening?

Stop a coach? The way they are thought to be gods..

He did the right thing by calling his dad and they notified Paterno...but Paterno not only didn't call law enforcement but he allowed it to be covered up which resulted in many other youngsters being sexually abused by his perverted coach..

Paterno and on down should all be fired but I doubt they will allow his image to be tainted...but it should...all those kids who suffered due to him keeping his mouth shut....Creep!

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You can say the same for everyone in the program who ever heard about it or witnessed it. How does someone not report stuff like this to the police?

They didn't report it due to football and the glory, praise and worship it provided each of them was more important to them then the welfare of some 10-11 year old kids who were subject to repeated sexual abuse.

All that glory and praise made them feel they were untouchable. Even above the law!


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He did the right thing by calling his dad and they notified Paterno...

No he didn't. Only part of the right thing.
I agree with Voxxjin See Profile that the right thing would have been to step in and halt the act itself. Then call police. After that, call the dad or whoever.

Of course, the way things get reported, we don't really know if the graduate assistant or janitor did anything to halt the act or not. But the sound of it is that they did not.
Nor apparently did anyone call the police or any child services agency. It was merely reported to superiors. Personally, I don't consider that entirely 'doing the right thing'.

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Read the Grand Jury Report. I read the whole thing.


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Not something I especially wanted to read, but I did.

So, it seems the reportage has been accurate-- neither the janitor nor graduate assistant stepped in to halt the acts in progress. Just reported to others (and specifically not to police) what they had seen.

I can understand, to an extent-- the janitor was so shocked that he was frozen with disgust, confusion, and incredulity.
Still, I'd sure like to believe I'd have done something beyond be shocked and disgusted, had I been in his shoes. I'd like to believe I'd have done something to halt the act itself, and then done more than only tell others I worked with about it.


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What a freakin disgrace....wish everyone involved, including Paterno and the University President, would be held accountable for what happened to those pre-teen children. Not only for the time they became aware of what Sandusky allegedly did but for also covering up for the sick SOB which enabled him to allegedly continue for years to sexually abuse children....
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Embattled former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky continued to be a presence around the Penn State football program up to his arrest Saturday on child molestation charges, including working out multiple times in the team’s weight room just last week, according to multiple sources within the football program.

The sources, who asked to remain unnamed due to the nature of the scandal, said they saw Sandusky working out in the Lasch Football Building last week.

Penn State said it banned Sandusky from bringing children to the football building after a then graduate assistant reported he saw the then 59-year-old coach and a 10-year-old boy in the shower of the football team’s locker room.

The graduate assistant, identified by the Harrisburg Patriot-News as current Penn State assistant Mike McQueary, told coach Joe Paterno, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz about the incident, although the level of detail may not have been consistent.

Curley and Schultz did not call police, as the state attorney general says was required by Pennsylvania law. Instead they chose to engage a partial ban of Sandusky from university facilities, although that apparently did not include full access to the school’s weight room. The decision was reviewed and approved by university president Graham Spanier.

Sandusky, 67, was charged by a state grand jury with myriad counts of deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and other offenses after a three-year state police investigation.

Curley and Schultz were also charged with failure to report the abuse of a child and perjury.

Curley has asked to be placed on administrative leave. Schultz has retired. Both turned themselves into authorities Monday in Harrisburg.

“Despite this so-called ‘ban’ which was reviewed and approved by University President Graham Spanier without any further inquiry on his part, there was no effective change in Sandusky’s status with the school and no limits on his access to campus,” attorney general Linda Clark said in a statement.

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Fooled my ass...Lying sack of garbage.

“Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential,” Paterno’s statement read. “The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.”

Your cited article missed part of Paterno's statement:

"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators."

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This whole thing makes me want to vomit.



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They didn't report it due to football and the glory, praise and worship it provided each of them was more important to them then the welfare of some 10-11 year old kids who were subject to repeated sexual abuse.

I don't disagree with you about their reasoning. I just don't understand how human beings can let themselves slide that low morallly, to the point that they don't call the cops when a kid is being sexually abused.
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Cops Condemn Penn State's 'Culture' of Not Preventing Sex Abuse

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