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Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:3
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reply to ajwees41

Re: DCX3400 box for sale on craigslist

said by ajwees41:

said by gar187er:

MSOs CANNOT sell them...thats the point....

I think they can they just choose not to

It is also up to the manufacturer to give the MSO permission to sell the equipment because the software running on the digital set top boxes have licenses.

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

said by Mike Wolf:

said by ajwees41:

said by gar187er:

MSOs CANNOT sell them...thats the point....

I think they can they just choose not to

It is also up to the manufacturer to give the MSO permission to sell the equipment because the software running on the digital set top boxes have licenses.

That sounds like the BS that was used to lock you into renting your home phone in the past.

First-sale doctrine

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

This right was underlined by the US courts in the case of NEBG v Weinstein,[4] in which a film-industry defendant accepted that it had no right to restrict buyers of DVDs from renting them to third parties.

GTFan

join:2004-12-03

said by Joe12345678:

That sounds like the BS that was used to lock you into renting your home phone in the past.

There have been multiple lawsuits filed about this, including ones against Comcast, but I don't know where they stand.

»Comcast Sued (Again) For Cable Box Rentals


owlyn
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join:2004-06-05
Newtown, PA
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reply to Joe12345678

said by Joe12345678:

That sounds like the BS that was used to lock you into renting your home phone in the past.

First-sale doctrine

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

This right was underlined by the US courts in the case of NEBG v Weinstein,[4] in which a film-industry defendant accepted that it had no right to restrict buyers of DVDs from renting them to third parties.

IMO, the first sale doctrine has nothing to do with this. The device is "first sold" to an MSO. They can do with it whatever they want- resell it, or not resell it. In the U.S., most do not resell it. Even if the situation is that, in order to purchase and use the boxes, the MSO must enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to not resell the boxes, that is their choice. Also, we don't know who wants that stipulation. The MSOs may insist that the manufacturer not sell to consumers. Either way, the first sale doctrine doesn't seem to apply.

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

said by owlyn:

said by Joe12345678:

That sounds like the BS that was used to lock you into renting your home phone in the past.

First-sale doctrine

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

This right was underlined by the US courts in the case of NEBG v Weinstein,[4] in which a film-industry defendant accepted that it had no right to restrict buyers of DVDs from renting them to third parties.

IMO, the first sale doctrine has nothing to do with this. The device is "first sold" to an MSO. They can do with it whatever they want- resell it, or not resell it. In the U.S., most do not resell it. Even if the situation is that, in order to purchase and use the boxes, the MSO must enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to not resell the boxes, that is their choice. Also, we don't know who wants that stipulation. The MSOs may insist that the manufacturer not sell to consumers. Either way, the first sale doctrine doesn't seem to apply.

I don't think an agreement like that will hold up in court MS tried stuff like that aka you can only sell systems with windows on them and the courts stopped that.

Any ways what if they where dumped?? I herd some one found a WeatherStar XL in a dumpster at old cable head end.

What if some ended up at a electronics recycling place? The electronics recycling do sell PC's and other stuff they take in.

scanpa
Premium
join:2006-09-06
Lebanon, PA

1 way STB can be resold to the public.

2 way - Addressable STB can not be sold to the public in the USA.



owlyn
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join:2004-06-05
Newtown, PA
Reviews:
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reply to Joe12345678

said by Joe12345678:

said by owlyn:

said by Joe12345678:

That sounds like the BS that was used to lock you into renting your home phone in the past.

First-sale doctrine

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

This right was underlined by the US courts in the case of NEBG v Weinstein,[4] in which a film-industry defendant accepted that it had no right to restrict buyers of DVDs from renting them to third parties.

IMO, the first sale doctrine has nothing to do with this. The device is "first sold" to an MSO. They can do with it whatever they want- resell it, or not resell it. In the U.S., most do not resell it. Even if the situation is that, in order to purchase and use the boxes, the MSO must enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to not resell the boxes, that is their choice. Also, we don't know who wants that stipulation. The MSOs may insist that the manufacturer not sell to consumers. Either way, the first sale doctrine doesn't seem to apply.

I don't think an agreement like that will hold up in court MS tried stuff like that aka you can only sell systems with windows on them and the courts stopped that.

Any ways what if they where dumped?? I herd some one found a WeatherStar XL in a dumpster at old cable head end.

What if some ended up at a electronics recycling place? The electronics recycling do sell PC's and other stuff they take in.

Whatever, dude. The point is that you can buy whatever you can find, but don't expect Comcast to activate it. Comcast boxes found on the web are either unreturned to Comcast, or stolen, and in either case they still belong to Comcast. The only other boxes came from Canada. Either way, they won't be activated.