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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

Teaching respect for ip

I have been thinking about it for some years and have come to one conclusion.

Teachers are the worst ip offenders there are, and it's legal.
They have no respect for ip, cause they can get it free.

This carrys on to children who learn by mimic and they become pirates.

Spend the money where it will do the most good, at our schools.
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ArrayList
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what are you talking about??? How do teachers not respect IP?



gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

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Santa Cruz, CA

By getting media for free and bragging about it. Just the fact they get it free is noticed by students so they figure if the teacher can do it, why cant I?
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ArrayList
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Wow. that is a stretch.



gaforces
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Santa Cruz, CA

What do you mean? What stretch? It's a logical conclusion based on years of studying this problem.

Thats just the tip o the iceberg, since pirating has legs of its own now.
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reub2000
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reply to ArrayList

*whoosh*


PinkyThePig
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reply to ArrayList

He is probably referring to the photo copies of papers that explicitly state "DO NOT COPY." When I was in 10th grade math we never even got a text book. Everytime we moved to a new chapter we got a photocopied version of that chapter.



ArrayList
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ok that isn't right.

I thought he was saying that teachers just got free copies of the books from the publishers. I missed it.



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reply to gaforces

said by gaforces:

It's a logical conclusion based on years of studying this problem.

you have been.. studying.. this "problem"?

I didn't know that it was a problem


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
reply to PinkyThePig

said by PinkyThePig:

He is probably referring to the photo copies of papers that explicitly state "DO NOT COPY." When I was in 10th grade math we never even got a text book. Everytime we moved to a new chapter we got a photocopied version of that chapter.

No I am not talking about text books that school boards get kickbacks for ...
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gaforces
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Santa Cruz, CA
reply to ArrayList

Brain, use it.



ArrayList
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there is nothing wrong with giving kickbacks to schools for picking the products. You seem to have a vendetta against people who manage to get a better deal than you.



gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

You are wrong again, I have no vendetta for anyone.
You are not worth arguing with as you dont make any sence and try to put words or actions twords me which arent applicable.
If you have something intelligent to post, I might reply, but I doubt it.
Byeeeeee
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ArrayList
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you said, "They have no respect for ip, cause they can get it free." then you went on to say, " No I am not talking about text books that school boards get kickbacks for ." You still never elaborated to your original point.

I see nothing wrong with the school getting a kickback for signing up with a publisher.

Teachers respect IP, they watch for plagiarism all the time.



gaforces
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said by ArrayList:

Teachers respect IP, they watch for plagiarism all the time.

Ok, I'll bite on this one.
Watching for plagiarism while at the same time bragging about how they can get media free is hypocritical which makes it even easier for children to decide to pirate.
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ArrayList
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said by gaforces:

said by ArrayList:

Teachers respect IP, they watch for plagiarism all the time.

Ok, I'll bite on this one.
Watching for plagiarism while at the same time bragging about how they can get media free.

I have never seen a teacher brag about getting media free. If anything they get it as part of their job. Many professionals in the IT sector get software free as part of their job. It's an occupational bonus. Nothing wrong with it.


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reply to gaforces

said by gaforces:

Teachers are the worst ip offenders there are, and it's legal.
They have no respect for ip, cause they can get it free.

You are clearly mistaken.

The reason why schools can copy "freely" is because the educational institution already pays a blanket license that allows them to copy what they need for educational purposes.

It's called "Access Copyright" in Canada, and there's undoubtedly a similar licensing scheme in the states.
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gaforces
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Not in the US, teachers can take almost anything and say its for educational purpose and dont pay a dime.
Some software they used to have to pay 10% of retail, but mostly they get that free now too.
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El Quintron
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said by gaforces:

Not in the US, teachers can take almost anything and say its for educational purpose and dont pay a dime.
Some software they used to have to pay 10% of retail, but mostly they get that free now too.

The US equivalent is called the "Copyright Clearance Center" and most likely the school board has an agreement with them. The would be in charge of blanket licensing all copyrighted materials being used for educational purposes in the US
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I'm watching District 9 again, and I've come to realize something: Wikus's got it all wrong. If I were morphing into a 9 foot tall hyper-dextrous alien that can shoot lightning bolts and get high off cat food why would I ever want to become human again?