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OneEye

join:2006-04-15
Peachtree City, GA
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Re: Need Information

I know about Tomato but, like a lot of users, I've had to upgrade my wireless routers every two years or less to have access to new features. Having other than official software on the router voids the warranty.

Why can't Cisco/Linksys give us download counters with their wireless routers?


OneEye

join:2006-04-15
Peachtree City, GA
Why doesn't DSLReports ask Cisco/Linksys directly and publish their response on this forum.

Maybe, Cisco/Linksys will admit that counters can't work and then we, the public, will have ammunition to use against AT&T when they start billing users for exceeding CAPS.


r81984
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Linksys and Cisco has no interest of providing extra value to their low end routers which will hurt sales of their enterprise equipment.

Counters can be 100% accurate if you have a fast enough processor.
To screen packets to ignore all overhead traffic like SNMP, other protocols takes alot of processing power. It takes processing power to add +1 to a counter for every bit passed through.

If their equipment does not have fast enough processors to forward packets, screen them for overhead traffic, and to add to a counter at the same time for every user connected to that equipment then it cannot be accurate.
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
customer owned equipment are primarly more unmanaged, more power oriented (video streaming, gaming, etc). If you wanna truly managed equipment you gotta pay more for it and learn more how to customize to your needs. You wanna fancy graphs, etc? You need to set up a monitoring server, cron jobs and mrtg, learn script languages, etc...


r81984
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said by chgo_man99:

customer owned equipment are primarly more unmanaged, more power oriented (video streaming, gaming, etc). If you wanna truly managed equipment you gotta pay more for it and learn more how to customize to your needs. You wanna fancy graphs, etc? You need to set up a monitoring server, cron jobs and mrtg, learn script languages, etc...

Not true.
Companies like dd-wrt make money offering all the best features on lower powered equipment.
Cisco will not release firmware on their low end equipment that does everything their high end equipment does. They are trying to protect their high end products.

Cisco wants you to pay more for fully manned equipment, but with dd-wrt, tomoto, smoothwall, monowall, or your own programed software definately competes with their high end software.
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
You're right but you're then modifying or "hacking" your existing equipment to make get a free upgrade. You're not getting this off-shelf as a standard for reasons like ones you mentioned in your last post.

The different firmware you install is not tested by cisco (currently employed) or in cooperation with them, just by the makers. So what you get is not so "clean" and stable firmware that one times works and one time it doesn't. Most of the time does. But often there are some bugs and stable releases are just too old which is true for dd-wrt. Other alternatives like tomato requires little more RAM.
So if you got WRT54G from 2008 with only 8Mb memory instead 16, you can't put just any open source firmware and with dd-wrt you are restricted to a mini cut version.

Btw cisco makes "home office" routers which are little more advanced and step ahead of most home routers that come with the power of IOS. You can make configurations on them using either CLI or GUI. They have useful VPN features.


r81984
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Buffalo manufactures home routers and use dd-wrt on their routers straight from the factory because they have no high end products to protect.

For companies like cisco, netgear you dont need to hack your router or upgrade it, you just load 3rd party firmware that will use the available hardware/processing power for more features or you can just buy buffalo and get dd-wrt straight from the factory installed on a router.
dd-wrt is not a hack
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