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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to AndyDufresne
Re: Corbel Installations paid not Cablevision said by AndyDufresne:These guys are contractors. I got a feeling Corbel will be doing some hiring/training in next couple of weeks.
"A Cablevision spokesman said the strike "is a matter for Corbel" and declined further comment"
These workers weren't union workers. Is it even a strike at all if they aren't in a union? Or is it just workers refusing to work? They could all be fired outright if Corbell had others to replace them.
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | They would have been better off doing a "sick out".
I can see where they would be pissed, though. A 30% cut is nothing to sneeze at.
I really don't agree with the whole "fire 'em all" notion. Employees who are treated well & well compensated DO NOT JOIN UNIONS.
Employees that are treated like chattel often do join unions, or seek employment in other places.
Given the present job market, many employers have taken the "screw the employee" route whenever they can. The rationale is that there is a large pool of unemployed they can draw from.
The time will eventually come when that will no longer be the case. The employers who treated their employees well will benefit from having loyal, well compensated, and capable employees that will give them maximum productivity through the next economic upswing.
The employers who treated their employees like trained monkeys will be cranking up the HR machine, since anyone worth anything in their organization will jump ship for greener pastures.
They'll be left sorting through the 10% who sat around idle for 3 or so years with no job. Their skills eroding to the point where you would have to teach them how to show up on time again.
Then those same employers will be the ones bitching that their workers are lazy, unskilled, & shiftless since everyone who was industrious, innovative, & motivated went elsewhere.
You can't go wrong treating your employees right. It's easy to keep the unions out of your business. Be a good guy to work for, and none of your employees would even whisper union. As a matter of fact, word gets around and the talent eventually starts finding you. Those are the people that will make you a buck...
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| i have worked for corbel and they dont respect employees, they and cablevision put alot of pressure on techs to complete jobs in a certain time frame,ex: 4 installs that should be completed bet 8am to 11 am,and we all know that one install can run up to 3hrs if it get complicated.........they suspend techs for simple matters and for them to work six and seven days.
the problem with corbel is the managers and owners they try to cheat the state and give these guys low pay for high risk jobs, techs over there hve no benifits/no insurance wat so ever and they have to climb a 28 foot ladder......what they get pay per job might look high to others but if you think what they really go through, techs work from 7 in the morning to sometimes 10 at night 6 days a week and when pay day come they get backcharged for a job if the customer states the tech did not do the job prpoerly or damaged their property......back charge means u do the job and get 50 dollars on the 9th of may and the 24 of may they take back the 50 dollars and the customer still has cable......
companies like these need to be investigated by the government..........managers get from 2500 to 3000 per week and some techs go home with lest than minimum wage.............. | |
 JRW2R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, Max and Zen.Premium
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said by N3OGH:I really don't agree with the whole "fire 'em all" notion. Employees who are treated well & well compensated DO NOT JOIN UNIONS. Don't rain on their vitriol with logic, it just ticks them off. 
Employees that are treated like chattel often do join unions, or seek employment in other places.
Given the present job market, many employers have taken the "screw the employee" route whenever they can. The rationale is that there is a large pool of unemployed they can draw from. 
The employers who treated their employees well will benefit from having loyal, well compensated, and capable employees that will give them maximum productivity through the next economic upswing.
The employers who treated their employees like trained monkeys will be cranking up the HR machine, since anyone worth anything in their organization will jump ship for greener pastures.
They'll be left sorting through the 10% who sat around idle for 3 or so years with no job. Their skills eroding to the point where you would have to teach them how to show up on time again.
You can't go wrong treating your employees right. It's easy to keep the unions out of your business. Be a good guy to work for, and none of your employees would even whisper union. As a matter of fact, word gets around and the talent eventually starts finding you. Those are the people that will make you a buck...
To use their logic, anyone who dares to ask for a raise should be fired on the spot too. You have a job, you should be grateful... 
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
join:2011-08-11
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| While I agree with a lot of what you guys said, there is one point I think you are mistaken about...
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The employers who treated their employees well will benefit from having loyal, well compensated, and capable employees that will give them maximum productivity through the next economic upswing.
Here is the problem with that. The reason we are in this predicament is because so much work has been moved overseas (or south) that we now have more people than we have jobs for. That situation makes it easy for employers to pit the employed against the unemployed and constantly lower salaries. This is all done under the scapegoat of 'being competitive' when, in actuality, it is the exploitation of impoverished people to the benefit of the executives and shareholders. Unless this is stopped, and the jobs brought back to the US, there WILL BE NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY; there will be a steady decline for many years. If this situation is left to it's 'natural conclusion' you will see a gradual leveling off (and later a very slow recovery) when wages are balanced globally. In other words, you can expect the recovery to start when our wages are the same as Mexico, China, Indonesia, etc. We are sliding into poverty and the CEOs are getting rich on our way down.
The only way to stop this decline is through heavy taxation of any company that uses foreign labor and tariffs on foreign products. Anyone see that happening anytime soon? | |
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kudos:5 | said by CXM_Splicer:While I agree with a lot of what you guys said, there is one point I think you are mistaken about...
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The employers who treated their employees well will benefit from having loyal, well compensated, and capable employees that will give them maximum productivity through the next economic upswing.
Here is the problem with that. The reason we are in this predicament is because so much work has been moved overseas (or south) that we now have more people than we have jobs for. That situation makes it easy for employers to pit the employed against the unemployed and constantly lower salaries. This is all done under the scapegoat of 'being competitive' when, in actuality, it is the exploitation of impoverished people to the benefit of the executives and shareholders. Unless this is stopped, and the jobs brought back to the US, there WILL BE NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY; there will be a steady decline for many years. If this situation is left to it's 'natural conclusion' you will see a gradual leveling off (and later a very slow recovery) when wages are balanced globally. In other words, you can expect the recovery to start when our wages are the same as Mexico, China, Indonesia, etc. We are sliding into poverty and the CEOs are getting rich on our way down. The only way to stop this decline is through heavy taxation of any company that uses foreign labor and tariffs on foreign products. Anyone see that happening anytime soon? The worldwide transportation and communications systems improvements have allowed 3rd world countries to get a bigger & bigger piece of the world income at the expense of increasingly non-competitive 1st world workers.
Those in the US who have pushed for world parity in wages should be happy. The poor and disadvantaged of the 3rd world are making progress. They just didn't think it would be at their expense. They thought, wrongly, that all wages would rise around the world instead of the leveling process that took place.
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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The worldwide transportation and communications systems improvements have allowed 3rd world countries to get a bigger & bigger piece of the world income at the expense of increasingly non-competitive 1st world workers.
Along with trade agreements and elimination of tariffs, yes. And I think you are confusing non-competitiveness with wanting to share in the increased profits they are generating for their company. The executives will have nothing of the sort.
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Those in the US who have pushed for world parity in wages should be happy. The poor and disadvantaged of the 3rd world are making progress. They just didn't think it would be at their expense. They thought, wrongly, that all wages would rise around the world instead of the leveling process that took place.
Actually, I think it was the corporations that pushed for wage parity knowing full well what would happen. And it is arguable that the 3rd world is making progress; I am sure you have read the recent NY Times pieces on Apple workers in China? Sure someone is making progress but it certainly isn't the workers. There are leeches (sorry, I meant to say the 1%) in every country.
So, how would you propose to 'fix' the situation? | |
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