DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19 | reply to PSWired
Re: how close can a cell tower be to a house? said by PSWired:What is your objection to this pole? Aesthetics?
The people in the community have raised the following concerns and/or objections:
- aesthetics
- health impacts
- property values
- process
- need
The first three are obvious. (I'm not saying health impacts exist; just that I don't need to explain what it means.) I will explain the remaining two:
Process refers to the way that pole/antenna was approved. Is the government doing proper oversight or was it negligent here? Can a commercial company put up any telecomm gear on any pole without the government or homeowner having any say? Is there no distance minimum? (From my reading of the zoning laws, the answer is yes - companies can put up antennas on any pole they want and there is no minimum distance. I'm still looking into the pole 'upgrade' however.)
Need refers to the need for the antenna at this location. Did the company justify its need for an antenna at this location? Can a company decide on its own where to place antennas just to suit its own commercial interests? After all, we're not talking basic utilities (electricity, water, etc.) but cell service. Does anyone really need cell service everywhere? Does a cell provider have to show some metric - such as a percentage of dropped calls in the area - or can it simply put in antennas without having to show a need; maybe just trying to expand its market share. |
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| said by DonLibes:said by PSWired:What is your objection to this pole? Aesthetics?
The people in the community have raised the following concerns and/or objections: - aesthetics - health impacts - property values - process - need - aesthetics >VERY subjective, would it really be more unsightly that a standard power pole with all the wires, pole pigs, connection boxes etc.?
- health impacts >ruled on by the FCC, and studied intensively by health agencies. proven safe.
- property values >WHAT? no effect.
- process >it's their existing pole placement area, and upgrades to other services normally on a pole are allowed.
- need >not a requirement in these cases. also, many people only have cell service, and it's considered by the government to be essential. just think of how many times people were saved because they could call for help on a cell phone. |
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 SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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Mentor, OH
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IMO, that antenna is better then the boxes telcos will plunk in peoples yards. Those huge metal cabinets are magnets for cars, and a pain in the ass to mow around.
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to iknow
said by iknow :said by DonLibes:said by PSWired:What is your objection to this pole? Aesthetics?
The people in the community have raised the following concerns and/or objections: - aesthetics - health impacts - property values - process - need - aesthetics >VERY subjective, would it really be more unsightly that a standard power pole with all the wires, pole pigs, connection boxes etc.? - health impacts >ruled on by the FCC, and studied intensively by health agencies. proven safe. - property values >WHAT? no effect. - process >it's their existing pole placement area, and upgrades to other services normally on a pole are allowed. - need >not a requirement in these cases. also, many people only have cell service, and it's considered by the government to be essential. just think of how many times people were saved because they could call for help on a cell phone. +1
People demand good cell phone service but don't want anything required to provide it anywhere near them. (NIBY) |
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These antennas are for AT&Ts 4G network to download data, and they are in a solely residential neighborhood, on a quiet street. The residents are wondering who is going to be downloading big packets of data to their cellular phones at their own house? we use our WIFI for our laptops and tablets when at home. Are these 60 foot poles being put in front of our yards, (20 feet from our bedrooms at some points) in case someone decides to drive by and download data ? this is not downtown Rockville is a 2 way low traffic road...and by the way we are not NIMBYs we are NIABYs (Not in anyone's backyard). |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | said by Terri :These antennas are for AT&Ts 4G network to download data, and they are in a solely residential neighborhood, on a quiet street.
I think they are uploading data too.
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | It's hard to take anyone against them seriously unless they are willing to give up their wireless devices like cell phones and other devices. They want all this stuff and good wireless coverage but not the equipment that provides it. It has to be placed where it is needed. |
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PSWired
join:2006-03-26
Annapolis, MD | reply to Terri
The "I have wifi at home" argument isn't really valid: as 4G networks are rolled out more thoroughly, the voice services on your phone handset will be moved over to the new technology and the older systems will be decommissioned. These services need a solid network to fall back on if wifi is unavailable. Do you trust your $50 linksys router to handle 911 calls?
I like having public sewer service. I realize that the typical American thinks public sewer service is a basic utility, and the infrastructure that supports it is necessary and justified. However, it'd be unreasonable to expect me to accept a large sewage treatment plant being built across the street from my house. It's not unreasonable to expect me to accept a small lift pump shack to be installed across the street from my house. I see your DAS installation as more of the latter. |
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| This is completely false for this specific DAS, I have 4 bar reception with AT&T and have one of this poles in front of my house. Also, there is another DAS in the same area with a different set of poles from Next G for Sprint...talk about efficiency and collocation! |
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