DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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Re: Cable companies' Review and Vary of 2011-703 said by resa1983:Their reply is pretty damned awesome. quote:
14. Further, to the extent that Bell encounters bridge tap when installing HSI, the cable was likely placed in the 70s or earlier and has been fully depreciated...
This is not the 1st time that MTS has accurately and eloquently called BS on B$ELL's costing and other proposals.
I thoroughly look fwd to their submissions and commentaries with the same level of anticipation with which I salivate about JF's.
CNOC too has delivered some great submissions this year.
The next paragraph is also a winner, IMNSHO.
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15. Third, Bell’s application of eligible conditioning costs includes the replacement of terminals at the demarcation point of customer premises or demarcation devices, sometimes known as Network Interface Devices (NIDs).
Bell has been installing NIDs on installations and repair visits for more than twenty years, and the original justification for doing so was the transferal of ownership of inside wiring to customers.
The cost of placing these devices, even if placed during a visit to install HSI, is causal to the provision of primary exchange services (PES), not HSI.
In the event that the Commission determines it is appropriate to include NID placement as a cost causal to HSI, it cannot be double counted in Bell’s cost recovery for PES, and the occurrence rate for NID placement should be reduced going forward compared to the rates claimed in the past.
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However, I wish that they WOULD replace the not weatherproof by design prehistoric demarc strip on the outside wall of OUR place.
Bell has not fixed ALL of them yet, and ALREADY they are double-dipping on the costs for the first time.
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(2) That they already HAVE !
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| I also *love* how MTS keeps spitting and spitting on Bell. Plus they own a network based on an identical technology so these guys know what they are talking about.
Now we have good incumbents and evil incumbents. It's quite funny that Shaw started in the good league and now they are trying so hard to get in bed with the bad boys, that they are willing to bootlick as much as possible, only so the truly-evil kids would let them in. Such a shame... picking the dark side. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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kudos:6 | said by alienzzz:I also *love* how MTS keeps spitting and spitting on Bell.
Plus they own a network based on an identical technology, so these guys know what they are talking about....
MTS does not need to see what's behind B$ELL's ####s - they already KNOW.
Actually, PShaw only agreed with ONE point of B$ELL's R&V of 703, and said that they were not commenting on the rest.
And I've said before that MTS has a crackerjack legal/regulatory team.
This is just their latest 'WRinging of the B$ELL'.  |
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said by Davesnothere: quote:
15. Third, Bell’s application of eligible conditioning costs includes the replacement of terminals at the demarcation point of customer premises or demarcation devices, sometimes known as Network Interface Devices (NIDs).
Bell has been installing NIDs on installations and repair visits for more than twenty years, and the original justification for doing so was the transferal of ownership of inside wiring to customers.
Actually, this is very true.
about 15 years ago, maybe a bit more, Bell had kids (people in training or summer students) going house to house to install these. Everyone on the street I lived on had one installed. The kids said this is Bell's new terminal which was both safer and has easy disconnects that everyone requires now. So I had them put it on the inside of the house. Mine had two test ports for two different phone lines.
So the NID thing is very true and again total bullshit. I didn't think of this. Good point. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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kudos:6 | said by Very true :....So the NID thing is very true and again total bullshit. I didn't think of this. Good point.
Aw shucks ! [Dave shrugs and grins  ]
It was not my own observation, but I felt that it needed to be repeated here.
And another thing (which IS my observation) :
Why did we even NEED to make part of the wiring the responsibilty of the subscriber in the first place ?!
Cablecos (at least Cogeco) will wire all the way to your computer room and charge no extra, nor do they quibble about whose wiring is whose.
The whole CONCEPT of demarc points is a grandfathered CASH COW of B$ELL's, and it ought to be dismantled.
NIDs or not, it should be up to Bell to send qualified techs who know what to do and how to test. - Cablecos do that. |
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| I don't think house wiring for phone jacks are so important anymore. With DECT 6.0 cordless phones that cost no a lot more than a corded one and support multiple handsets, there is almost no point about maintaining or even having internal phone wiring. If anything, a network jack in place of a phone outlet is more useful in the long run. |
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