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Davesnothere
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DSLR Restore Progress

 
This was tweeted earlier today :

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"We should have the new data merged with the old in just a few days...should include your login account."

12:22 PM - 7 May 2012

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Here is DSLR's Google Doc where updates and detailed explanations of 'sup may also be found :

»docs.google.com/document/d/1kll8···rHY/edit

The most recent update was May 7th, based on info inside the document.

After May 12th, scroll down for latest as this post will be locked by the system.


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28K in data recovery fees. Geez.


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Yikes!

Good thing that they will restore the missing content.

Justin will have to have start a donation campaign, hehe.
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Chuckcar_t

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What happens if "some guy" stole your name when you posted anonymously? What happens when the old data gets mixed in with the old? Who will assume the name Chuckcar? Some Guy stole my name and i got my name back when all the old data was lost well we'll just have to wait and see who gets my name.

Chuckcar_t

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Well i guess i'll have to hurry and register my *old* names Some Guy stole from me in case i get to keep them when the old data gets mixed in with the new. Because if i don't he'll get my old names and i won't be able to use them only he will be able.

Chuckcar_t

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He should've done incremental backups in which case it would've cost him nothing. Now how much could text possibly take up? There were very few pictures and all for nothing if the bloke just did those incremental backups. Note: Always remember to do incremental backups no matter who you are!

Anon
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Well i got another one of my names back. I sure hope i get to keep them and they don't go back to the "Some Guy" who stole my names. Well we'll just have to wait and see what happens when the old data gets mixed in with the new.


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said by Davesnothere:

"should include your login account."

Does that mean our passwords are going to get reverted again?



Having borked my own systems a couple of times, I can only begin to imagine what a PITA restoring all of DSLr must be like.
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Anon
Only time will tell. When i used to post anonymously "Some Guy" stole my names and i couldn't register them because he registered them but i got them back when the old data went down. I have to wait and see what happens when the old data gets mixed in with the new. I hope my names don't revert back to him and i get to keep them.


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How exactly did the other individual "steal" your names? And why do you have more than one?


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said by milnoc:

How exactly did the other individual "steal" your names? And why do you have more than one?

You know that once you squeeze toothpaste out of the tube it can never be put back in right?
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How exactly did the other individual "steal" your names? And why do you have more than one?

That's what trolls do.

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That's easy we've been arguing for the past 8 or so years and i was posting anonymously so every time i used a name he'd register the name i was using anonymously then the next time i tried to use it i couldn't because it would say that name is already taken so i had to keep on changing names.


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That's easy we've been arguing for the past 8 or so years and i was posting anonymously so every time i used a name he'd register the name i was using anonymously then the next time i tried to use it i couldn't because it would say that name is already taken so i had to keep on changing names.

I'll bite, if very gently... why didn't you just register a name you liked before posting anonymously with it?
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I've gone one step further. My name is also a domain name that I own: Milnoc.com.

One day, I'll revive the site. I just need to upgrade to WordPress while keeping the old pages in their current locations.
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said by Chuckcar_t:

He should've done incremental backups in which case it would've cost him nothing. Now how much could text possibly take up? There were very few pictures and all for nothing if the bloke just did those incremental backups. Note: Always remember to do incremental backups no matter who you are!

You really should get a clue about the topic at hand before you go mouthing off about what other people should do. Right now, you just sound like a complete and utter tool.


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said by El Quintron:

I'll bite, if very gently... why didn't you just register a name you liked before posting anonymously with it?

 
Nahhhhh, that'd be too easy.


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said by IamGimli:

said by Chuckcar_t:

....Note: Always remember to do incremental backups no matter who you are !

You really should get a clue about the topic at hand before you go mouthing off about what other people should do. Right now, you just sound like a complete and utter tool.

 
But this time he makes a good point (amongst the other stuff).

There simply is NO GOOD EXCUSE/REASON for not making periodic backups to an alternate geographical location, especially if other folks depend upon you or your site !

(and by periodic, I DO NOT mean once every 2 years in which case DSLR wasn't due until September, eh ? )

Even once per month would have been a dramastic improvement over what just happened.

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whats wrong with making backups? i just did one yesturday... cost me $1 in media


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Wouldn't once a week, or even every day at midnight be necessary for a site with this volume?
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@ El Quintron & Paolo :

Absolutely, but I was just making a general point regarding relative severity.

Incremental backups once daily at about 5 AM Eastern time might be optimal.

And now, having said all of that, I really ought to back up some more of my OWN personal stuff right away.


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said by Davesnothere:

 
And having said all of that, I really ought to back up some more of my OWN stuff right away.

An easy way to prevent a catastrophe that I've found, is by keeping your datas and OSes on separate drives, at least that way if one drive goes you're not completely screwed.
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said by El Quintron:

An easy way to prevent a catastrophe that I've found, is by keeping your datas and OSes on separate drives, at least that way if one drive goes you're not completely screwed.

 
....which of course is not the Windoze default setting.

I do keep some of my data on other physical drives, even better on other PCs across my LAN, and/or on external USB hard drives.

But there is some with which I have been complacent and need to catch up - docs, bookmarks, & downloaded web pages - all of which default to C: .
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Doing a database snapshot (ie. maintaining consistency) for backup purposes requires some sort of add-on for most SQL databases -- if you keep the db server running during the backup. Most of these add-ons cost real money.


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....which of course is not the Windoze default setting.

Of course not... which is silly because both Linux and OS X separate the OS from the Data by default... even if they don't go all the way by using separate partions, recovery is substantially easier.


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said by MaynardKrebs:

Doing a database snapshot (ie. maintaining consistency) for backup purposes requires some sort of add-on for most SQL databases -- if you keep the db server running during the backup. Most of these add-ons cost real money.

But you can build them with open source SQL software, and all you're doing is paying the dev for his/her time, as opposed to Dev time + hefty licensing fees.
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said by Davesnothere:

said by IamGimli:

said by Chuckcar_t:

....Note: Always remember to do incremental backups no matter who you are !

You really should get a clue about the topic at hand before you go mouthing off about what other people should do. Right now, you just sound like a complete and utter tool.

 
But this time he makes a good point (amongst the other stuff).

No he doesn't. Incremental backups are notoriously unreliable as a general rule, and rarely ever work for database backups.

Full system backups or, even better, continuous sector-based shadow copy of the volumes are much more robust, reliable backup technologies when used in conjunction with the appropriate database agents.

None of that would have helped anyway in this case unless it was combined with off-site storage of those backups as there's very little backups can help with when a power outage takes out the storage arrays where those backups are stored and prevents them from being usable.

Hence my comment he should get a clue before telling anyone how to run their backups.


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said by IamGimli:

Hence my comment he should get a clue before telling anyone how to run their backups.

I don't think the term "incremental backup" was the right term to use, but the spirit of what s/he was saying is backups could have avoided this mess.
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I think they had database backups, problem is they were on the same storage array which was the biggest blunder I think.
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