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reply to Poornoob

Re: Vodka v Method heroic mode DS race

Particularly frustrating because Cig is asking for and getting helpful tips on other threads, but he seems bound and determined to discourage me from learning. I probably just made the topic too vague and open ended.

reply to Immer
I never said u cannot do it. Anything is possible or attainable. There is a reason some people get world first and some are stuck at 2/8 Heroic like myself. The best advice i can give you, or tip, is every button push has a result. Knowing the results of each buttonpush and understanding it will ultamately make you a better player. THE BEST WAY TO RAID BETTER IS A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR CLASS AND A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE MECHANICS OF EACH PARTICULAR FIGHT!!!
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Cigtyme - Alliance - Galakrond - Draneri Arcane Mage
GM and RL of Exalted with Chuck Norris (Before damn Commercial)
"What the hell man, wipe it, we fricken can't heal this damn thing to death"

don't take it as an attack on you, ciggy... just a word of encouragement for poornoob.

carry-on, gentlemen... carry on.

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reply to Poornoob
Register an account, and send this type of sidebar via private message. I don't think it is necessary to post in the thread proper. Now I need to respond to it... the major problem with getting yourself heard is one of scale. Empirically I fully agree with your assertions; however, what you are espousing in this thread is most relevant for those moving from non-raider to competent raider. Given the title of this thread is Vodka vs Method... I can see where the naysayers have solid footing in feeling the need to limit your expectations of results from providing guidance... you can't blog someone to the level of Vodka or Method raiding skill without hours of gametime.
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reply to Poornoob
Yes i apologize for being stearn and somewhat rude. I was under the impression that you were looking for shortcuts to become a great raider. There is no shortcut for that. Advice on becoming a great raider, or tips, :toon knowledge, situational awareness, targeting macros, trial and error on bosses, converse with like toons for info, and finally every descision in WoW has repocussions. There are many others as well. You are like a WoW surgeon. Whatever boss is on your operating table getting cut up, you have to know exactly how to handle each crisis as they come up. Being Proactive instead of reactive is the best way i can describe it.
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Cigtyme - Alliance - Galakrond - Draneri Arcane Mage
GM and RL of Exalted with Chuck Norris (Before damn Commercial)
"What the hell man, wipe it, we fricken can't heal this damn thing to death"

actually, your first comment to his post was overly dismissive (an attempt to steal the wind from his sails). Your assertion was that there was nothing left to know about DS; therefore, he was asking for tips to riding a bike.

I can see where that might put someone on the defensive.

I actually gave what I thought was pretty good starting off advice and he jumped all over me. More or less what I said would get you through most content.

DPS that doesn't stand in shit and put up good numbers you will be amazed at how far that will take you.
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reply to Poornoob
Have you watched videos on L2Raid and read through Icy-veins.com strats? I cannot help beyond that because I'm still trying to get my guild through 10M blackhorn normal.

Watch Vodka Method Paragon videos. Google Deathwing video from a "enter class here".

In FL we were stuck at Bethalac. I know don't judge me lol. Our hunters couldn't solo the little dudes. I googled Bethalac surv hunter videos. and Voila. It should how to solo them. I gave ths info to our hunter, he watched it and understood it. We havent wiped to beth since that day.

This isnt a tip. it is an example. There are almost too many ways to improve to list them here. It is almost a "as it happens basis". Figure out how to handle situations will help you out alot trying to get to their level. But no one on here has that kind of info. IF we did we would be in Vodka and not on this forum page.
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Cigtyme - Alliance - Galakrond - Draneri Arcane Mage
GM and RL of Exalted with Chuck Norris (Before damn Commercial)
"What the hell man, wipe it, we fricken can't heal this damn thing to death"

reply to Immer
Yes. I'm a competent raider, and as I said, my raid does DS10N in about 2 hours with maybe a wipe or two. We have done Morchok H, but haven't really tried the other bosses H yet because we have been running both mains and alts through DS, and getting the legendary staff, so we need to complete a full run on any raid night. I've looked at most of the typical resources: Icy-veins, Tankspot, Magecraft, WoW forums, and others that don't come to mind immediately. That's why I'm asking about ADVANCED tips and tricks - I think I have a pretty good grasp of the stuff most casual raiders know. If we were talking baseball, I'd say I'm beer league good, and am hoping to improve to semi-pro good. I'm not even hoping to get to the minor leagues, but just wanting to find ways of playing better.