said by EnasYorl: said by r81984:
Define where the internet resides? LOL?
It already has been resolved so you cant talk about it forever.
Here is the gist of it for you:
Internet is public (can be accessed outside of your network), intranet is private (can only be accessed on your network).
When you have a public accessible IP and can access public IPs you are on the internet regardless of what network you are on.
If you have a private ip and only have access to private IPs than you are not on the internet, but on an intranet.
That was the whole point. The Xbox is using a Public IP address to get Private video.
Your post was so great I laughed out loud.
Your lack of understanding how networks and the internet works is laughable.
I am trying to give the simplest definition so you can understand, but it obviously was not simple enough for you to understand.
said by EnasYorl:
Or wait does Comcast own that IP address that everyone can reach the XBOX with? hmmm.. Standing on quicksand? ICANN (»www.icann.org/) do IT!
Your xbox is going to get a public or at least an internet accessible ip address just like any other computer on your network or just share one internet IP on your router.
But the xbox comcast is going to route all data for the xbox on demand app through a different docsis channel or unused docsis space @ their modem to their private intranet ondemand servers.
Your xbox comcast ondemand traffic only works on the private network through their modem not the internet.
said by EnasYorl:
The actual network isn't defined by IP address space.
The Network is defined by who owns the Layer 1 medium (Fiber or Coax or Copper lines to the Subscriber) as well as the Layer 1/2 equipment such as DSLAMs, CMTS, eswitches, SONET, DWDM gear as well as the Layer 3 Routers that are routing all these packets.
Who owns the network means nothing.
How the network is setup virtually decides if it is internet or intranet.
Your device can be both on the internet and intranet with certain data limited to each network.
said by EnasYorl:
That is Comcast point as well as mine. If the Public IP address you have sends a packet across the entire country but never leaves Comcast network are you on the Internet even though both Source and Destinations are Public IP's?
Or what if you packet doesn't leave any of Comcast links to a peering point but it does go thru say a Level 3 router from blade to blade. Is that considered the Internet as it wasn't Comcast's router?
That was my point. You can never get a clear demarcation.
Comcast is not arguing that.
Many times you could be using the internet and what you are doing is hosted by the same company as your ISP, so sure you never leave the ISPs owned network, but you are still on the internet as you are on a publically accessible side of the ISPs network and the data shares the "internet" bandwidth.
For comcast the Xbox traffic is all internet traffic. The Xbox comcast ondemand traffic is all private, not internet accessible traffic that does not even share your "internet" bandwidth.
You can max out your xbox ondemand traffic and it will have no affect on your available internet bandwidth as they are not even on a shared connection.
The xbox ondemand app does not compete with any internet service as it can only be used on comcasts private intranet that can only be reached with a comcast modem on their network.
If people want dictate fairness of how much backbone a company allocates for their private network and how much for the internet then we must separate all ISPs from content providers.
That way all content will only be accessible over the internet and all ISPs will have to treat all data equal.
I do see a day when ISPs will be broken up from content providers.--
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