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Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to Brom

Re: [game] Avengers

Interesting.

My power was/is to survive one night kill attempt.

So, if we go with the theory that I was targeted night 3 and survived with my power and then you protected me, that fits the scenario of 2 nights with no kills.

That would also make Modem a liar since if I was targeted on night 3 and survived on my own with my power and was then subsequently targeted again on night 4 and saved by Brom, then Modem should be dead if he switched us because he would have been protected and I would not have been because of the switch.

But, Brom could also be lying which would throw all this out the window.


DrModem
Trust Your Doctor
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA
kudos:1
said by Dunga Bee:

That would also make Modem a liar since if I was targeted on night 3 and survived on my own with my power and was then subsequently targeted again on night 4 and saved by Brom, then Modem should be dead if he switched us because he would have been protected and I would not have been because of the switch.

I'm trying to figure out how this makes me a liar, explain plz


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
So how does the kill work with a switch?

If mafia tries to kill me but you switch with me do they kill you ?


Brom
Let's go Bucs

join:2010-10-26
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to Dunga Bee
I think you're overcomplicating this. If the mafia tried to kill you, and I tried to protect you, then both of those actions would be transferred to Modem when he switched the two of you. The ultimate outcome is the same, no one died. This does not make Modem a liar.

@47, the answer to your second question is yes. The bus driver swaps the targets of the action. So if mafia tried to kill you, but Modem switched himself with you, then he would be the one to die.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
Do u get return info if your save did anything ?

So logic time.

Night 3 you choose to save modem. Modem switches me and him. and No one dies. Note: Dunga claims to have a one freebie talent which saved him and explains the no death.

If Dunga is lieing than I was targeted and thats how we got to day 4.

Night 4 you choose to save Dunga. Dunga is targeted for death, but Modem switches with him and no one dies because of the protection. Now if Modem was the one targeted he would live if Dunga was mafia we would have no deaths.

This is where we are, yes?
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Call it evil that men do, lord forgive me for what my pen do
This is for your sins, I cleanse you. You can repent but I warn you, if you continue. To hell I’ll send you.


Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to Brom
I see and withdraw my comment about Modem. I thought that the switch would only affect the town actions (i.e. protection) not the mafia's targeting.

Understood now.

Sorry for the confusion.


Brom
Let's go Bucs

join:2010-10-26
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to f0rtys3ven
said by f0rtys3ven:

Night 4 you choose to save Dunga. Dunga is targeted for death, but Modem switches with him and no one dies because of the protection. Now if Modem was the one targeted he would live if Dunga was mafia we would have no deaths.

This is confusing to me, can your restate?
Let's say that I chose to save Dunga, and mafia chose to kill Modem, but then Modem did the switch. Modem would be saved, and Dunga would have died, and really my protection wouldn't have done anything.

I get no return info if my save was successful or altered or anything.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
If modem was the mafia target night 4 and he switched with Dunga than Dunga should have died because the protection was on Modem. If he is mafia he would live right? Or is oops mafia killed mafia at night possible ?

If Dunga was the mafia target night 4 and modem switched him. Modem lives because of your protection.

Two possibles.
--
Call it evil that men do, lord forgive me for what my pen do
This is for your sins, I cleanse you. You can repent but I warn you, if you continue. To hell I’ll send you.


Brom
Let's go Bucs

join:2010-10-26
Pittsburgh, PA
I do believe that mafia can end up killing themselves because of Modem's switching.

So there was really only one possibility for Night 4 from what I see, and that's that both mafia and myself targetted Dunga.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
kk.

Protus seems really really distant still. As does Chlen and Meningitis
[game] Newbie F11 »
This is a sub-selection from [game] Avengers