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cableties
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[Sci-Fi] Prometheus Imax 3D

If you are going to see Prometheus, see in Imax (if you can).

Wow.

I guess they updated the glasses (much smaller) than last time I saw Imax 3D (not the black scuba goggle-sized but slimmer, smaller black frames).

And the movie was very good. I won't spoil it, but the acting, imaging and effects were good.

Ironically, though not officially an Alien prequel, you get the "Scott" feel of the protagonist (strong female), the captain (fate), the bad guys (Weylan Corp), the all-too human android (irony) and classic man vs man, vs himself and vs nature (xeno).

Definitely a pre-order BluRay for me...
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yoda9999

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I'm afraid I didn't like it. I don't even know if I could care to see it again. I don't think Prometheus offered anything new, awe inspiring or insightful. If its possible to rip yourself off, I think Ridley Scott has done it. I think he is either overrated or no longer feels he has to prove anything. Maybe he is satisfied with being an action film director, and at his best he's a poor man's Stanley Kubrick.

I think I was right when I posted previously that the trailers revealed the whole movie.

Yeah, the film was visually stunning and all that, but how can it not be? Everyone is using the same technology these days, or the latest thing. There was nothing about this film that was ground breaking or could spawn some new trend or memes.

This film was like a high end version of an Alien vs Predator movies, which were all quite forgettable and a dozen times worse than Prometheus. OTOH, there are probably B-movies more exciting than Prometheus.

To me Alien is one of the greatest movies of all time, maybe not a masterpiece, but it is one of only 7 movies I have in my Amazon video library, along with Pulp Fiction and Apocalypse Now, and I have no desire to add anything else right now.


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I wish we had an Imax theater near us. I know there is one in Cleveland, but it's not worth the drive.

Instead, I'll watch it in 3d on a normal screen.
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Alien vs Predator movies

I liked all three of the movies. I just wish they had continued with the cliff hanger of the second one. Though they should/could have used the woman from the end of the first movie.

Either way, they were fun. Then again, I don't take such things to seriously.
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I saw the movie last night, and even though there where some plot issues I enjoyed it. I did not come in expecting to see Aliens etc, nor did the trailers actually give the whole movie away, and I have been following it since the first news release about it.
The visuals and audio where rich and colorful and David the android was awesome. There are layers in this movie that can be missed, so I will either watch it again, or buy the BD when it comes out.
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Was it just me or did this movie have an overused plot?


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I saw the movie yesterday. My opinion:

Stunning visuals, best 3D I've seen so far. Tops Avatar. Saw it in AVX3D and even the dark scenes were perfectly clear. The first thirty minutes especially are pure eye porn.

First act is brilliant.
Second act is excellent.
It goes down the shitters in the third act.

The script had some major weaknesses and plotholes but overall the film was very enjoyable. I wasn't surprised to find out Lost writer Damon Lindelof wrote parts of the script. That guy is fucking awful. His constant need to infuse spirituality in EVERYTHING he writes really wrinkles my ass. He seems to believe spirituality will somehow impart the movie with inner meaning. He hasn't written anything good since the first two seasons of Lost. How he keeps getting jobs is mind boggling.

I was also terribly annoyed by all the stupid things all those stoner scientists did. There are protocols when engaging with foreign specimens or environments.

They travel in a trillion dollar ship for two years to land on an alien planet. They enter a big mound and the first thing they do is remove their helmet. Even someone with Tourette would go "WTF are you doing moron?"

Stupid scientific mistakes an eight year old could notice are unforgivable in a movie that takes itself so seriously. This isn't Piranha 3D. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Then there's biologist who is stranded in an alien ship in a room where black shit is oozing out of vases and yet he seems to be terribly amused and decides to play with the hissing penis snake. My own dick could tell that thing was unfriendly. Worst biologist in the universe.

Special praises to Fassbender, his impersonation of David was top notch. Rapace's acting was also superb. Charlize Theron was hot as hell but ultimately useless. Except for looking cute in thights, what did she ever accomplish in the movie? Oh yeah she burned that guy. Probably the smartest thing the entire team did while on that planet.

It's worth seeing if only for the visuals and a few horrifying moments that had my dad covering his eyes.


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DO NOT PAY TO SEE PROMETHEUS.

I saw it today. The movie was horrible. I love scifi movies, but this sucked.
Very weak, not thought out plot. Lots of rookie mistakes for a scifi movie in terms of technology and aliens.
It has a story you would expect on a low budget scifi channel tv movie. I cant believe they put this in theaters.

I have never asked for my money back for a movie, but I will email the studio asking for it back.
I love scifi, but I would rather them not make a movie at all then make something as crappy as this.
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Holy Mixed Reviews, Batman!

Not sure which to believe...


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I saw the 2d version.
Like it has already been said, the plot isn't anything new.
The visuals [landscapes] were awesome, just as good as the ones in John Carter. I bet they would have been stunning in 3d.

I like how they avoided certain things, and created a fork, if you will.
Trying not to give away that much.
The movie did see to be cast heavy, like others have said. And for big name actors, they played "bit" parts, or what felt like bit parts.

I liked it, and will pick up the blue ray to add to my alien collection that I already have.

I only purchased a matinee ticket, no snacks. So I was hit for 6.75. I felt it was worth that, at least.
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Sniper3142
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I saw it yesterday.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 7 or possibly an 8.

It wasn't great but it wasn't horrible. As TigerLord mentioned, there were MAJOR mistakes made by these "scientists" and "professionals". I couldn't believe how stupid they acted!

I was expecting more from such a hyped up film.


yoda9999

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I don't think Ridley Scott makes rookie mistakes. I think he just wants to make money now.

Your feeling and disappointment is close to mine.

However, I may see it one more time just to make sure it's that bad, or maybe my eyes are bad.

I enjoyed Predators (2010) much more.


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I did have high hopes.
And at first it seemed to be more of a smarter scifi movie, but quickly fell apart lacking common sense and logic.
It is clear that none of the writers have ever seen anything scifi or ever watched any of the alien movies or any alien movie.

If we wanted off the wall scifi where things dont make sense and a very bad story then we would watch the stupid "D" made for tv movies scifi puts out.

It was clear to me that it was not written for those that like scifi movies. I really dont know what genre they wrote that movie for.
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r81984
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said by Sniper3142:

I saw it yesterday.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 7 or possibly an 8.

You have a skewed scale.
I love scifi movies and dont mind some of the crappier ones, but this movie sucked.
I give it a 1 out of 10.

In my opinion they did a huge disservice to scifi fans by purposely making a flop and wasting 100s of millions of dollars doing it which will turn off studios from doing real scifi movies in the future.
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yoda9999

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I thought the first quarter or third of the movie offered some promise.

but then it felt like a dumb action flick marketed as an intelligent sci fi film.


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The glasses were actually updated sometimes last year. I noticed it when my brother and I went to go see a movie during the holidays last year (I forget the movie atm). Now they are the size of some of the bigger sun glasses. In any case I haven't seen this movie yet but I plan to in the near future.

OT: I can confirm the RealD 3D ones work with some 3D computer monitors, they do with mine at least since mine requires the use of special software to play things in 3D.
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I've seen it, I liked it, I would watch it again,.....

***edit***


At first I couldn’t quite reconcile the first scene where the “Engineer” essentially sacrificed himself. However, I suppose it was an act to seed the planet with varied life using the Engineer‘s DNA as a base. Death to bring life. Presumably only to return and destroy that life later. I guess the intentions of the Engineer’s were never really addressed.

The ending seemed to suggest the possibility of another movie with Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and a damaged David (Michael Fassbender) taking an Engineer ship and going deeper into Engineer territory,….or to the next engineered planet.

I really liked the original “Alien” movie although it is a little tame (slow) by today’s standards and somewhat dated with respect to special effects. I really liked “Aliens” as well.


For what its worth, my Wife and I caught a matinee of Prometheus in 3D. We were going out of town and she said we had time to see it before leaving and she knew how much I wanted to see it. She’s a good sport considering its not her type of movie.


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I go to see the IMAX version Tuesday


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said by r81984:

You have a skewed scale.
I love scifi movies and dont mind some of the crappier ones, but this movie sucked.
I give it a 1 out of 10.

All you said is that it sucked. Can you at least form one coherent argument to support your position rather than insult people who liked it by telling them they have a warped sense of what a good movie is?


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said by r81984:

You have a skewed scale. I love scifi movies and dont mind some of the crappier ones, but this movie sucked.

As a sci-fi fan myself I have to ask what sort of movies do you like? I ask because science fiction is pretty broad and I notice some sci-fi fans like certain things while others look toward other stuff. Knowing what movies you love (and maybe why) would help get a better compass reading on our opinions of Prometheus.

Actually to you other sci-fi fans that have seen the movie if you can state your faves as well (and maybe why) it could go a long way for those of us wondering about the movie and seeing some wide disparity of opinions.


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Good eye candy. At least I enjoyed that part of it. The biggest thing coming out of this flick is that now we know (at least more than before), where the Aliens came from.

I just didn't buy that we made it that far technologically in a matter of 80 years. And they were still using LED flashlights? lol

I foresee a sequel...
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said by SRFireside:

said by r81984:

You have a skewed scale. I love scifi movies and dont mind some of the crappier ones, but this movie sucked.

As a sci-fi fan myself I have to ask what sort of movies do you like? I ask because science fiction is pretty broad and I notice some sci-fi fans like certain things while others look toward other stuff. Knowing what movies you love (and maybe why) would help get a better compass reading on our opinions of Prometheus.

Actually to you other sci-fi fans that have seen the movie if you can state your faves as well (and maybe why) it could go a long way for those of us wondering about the movie and seeing some wide disparity of opinions.

For me,…

Prometheus brought me back to the original “Alien” movie which I really loved when it came out. All the basics were there, The strong female lead (although they juggled a lot of characters in Prometheus), the artificial life form (David) with a questionable agenda, and so on,….

It really recaptured the essence of the original for me,….

They say you can’t go back but for me it was close,….

Sure there were technical flaws but it was such a visually stunning movie and a great cast. That doesn’t make up for everything but it helps,…


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Agreed. I tend to think people over think a movie and don't appreciate what is going on the screen.

For example the biologist playing with the alien "snake". How many different movies/times have we seen that played out? But it usually gets the same response from the viewer "No you idiot, don't do that".
We know, they know that an experienced biologist wouldn't do what that guy did. But then again consider the late Steve Irwin. He seemed to enjoy playing with dangerous animals.


I don't care if there is no chance at FTL, work hole travel, time travel, or if the science they are talking about can't exist. All I can about is it entertaining and fun.

If I want a factual movie, then I'd watch something from National Geographic or the Discovery channel.
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Here is a satirical take on this film that someone wrote about Prometheus on another board. And I agree with him 100%!!

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!!

Weyland Smithers wrote:

Prometheus is a hilarious comedy in the tradition of "Spaceballs" and "Men in Black" about a motley crew of forgetful, scaredy-cat scientists who go into space and try to find their alien creator. They find maps in caves that are their invitation, but this turns out to be a hilarious trick, like a mousetrap for retards.

The first scene is a giant, german-looking albino steroid guy who drinks some coffee out of an ashtray and gets sick and falls in the waterfall. Special effects reveal that he has little, tiny ladders in his blood called D&A. This guy looks like a member of the Blue Man Group, except White. There is a UFO flying overhead that is never seen or mentioned ever again in the movie. Just one of the many pranks that the writers and director have put in the movie to trick you with.

Next we meet these two very forgetful and silly scientists and they get to go into space on a beautiful ship. It is taken care of by a gay robot who does stuff like dye his hair and dress up like Robocop with a colander on his head to entertain himself. If C3PO had a human face, he would be this guy. All of the silly bungling scientists wake up from hyper-sleep in time to watch a hilarious hologram of a guy in an "old man" mask that looks like the Emperor from Return of the Jedi. I think he is wearing the old guy mask to get some laughs from the wacky scientists, but no one notices it. There is another funny guy with unconventional hair and tattoos who is really mean to everyone - that's so true! Guys that look like that are always dicks!

The spaceship starts to land on the planet, and as luck would have it, lands exactly near the alien castle on the very first try without even looking around too much - another hilarious example of serendipity! These guys are so lucky and fun to watch! The crazy scientists go into the alien castle and two of the guys get so scared that they decide to go back to the ship and get lost, even though they have flying superballs that make 3D maps of everything. Those two bungling doofuses! They are like "Dumb & Dumber" or "Abott & Costello". The rest of the gang finds more poisonous coffee and somehow the gay robot steals a whole pot of it without anyone noticing. He's such a Sneaky-Pete!

Everyone has to go back to the ship at the last minute because the Captian pranks them and waits until a violent storm is nearby before telling them about it! Haha! This guy is great! The two bungling idiot scientists get stuck in the castle and decide to goof-off all night. They try to pet a space cobra that lives in the poisonous coffee, but it kills them, which I think is what ALL cobras wish to do, space or no. Meanwhile, back on the ship, the gay robot does a HILARIOUS prank on the whiny scientist who wears a hipster scarf. He puts a little poisonous coffee in this jerk's drink and gives him pink eye and diarrhea (probably). Haha! That's like a whoopee cushion x100! Luckily the scientist has enough health left to hump his forgetful girlfriend one last time before he is all the way super-sick from the bad coffee. As one last prank to his fellow scientists, he suits up and goes back to the castle with them, even though he secretly knows he is very, very sick. Haha. What an inconvenience to the rest of the group - the ulimate prank!

The mean lady burns him later. The forgetful scientist gets pregnant with a white octopus and has to take it out using Michael Jackson's special oxygen bed. Now here is where the movie gets really hialrious, because she TOTALLY forgets that the alien squid is in there and just leaves to go do some errands! HAHAHA! It turns out that the funny guy in the old man mask is really hiding on the ship and he does some funny slapstick "old man walking" with a cane! I love it!

Everyone goes back to the alien castle for yet a THIRD time, this time to prank the space jockey who lives there. This guy is trying to take a nap, but they keep buggin him! Man, I hate that too! Anyway, they wake him up and start yelling at him, but he is SUPER cranky and kills everybody really fast, exactly the way I would have done it. The funny guy in the old man mask gets a GIANT bump on his head, just like on Bugs Bunny when someone gets an anvil dropped on them! Just another hilarious example of the comedy stylings of Ridley Scott. Luckily, without too much trouble the forgetful scientist sneaks away and easily convinces the funny captain to crash his ship into the space jockey's ship so he can't prank everyone on earth with the old "poison coffee routine." The mean lady gets crushed because the alien ship starts to roll like a big wagon wheel and she runs DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ITS PATH for big laughs from the audience. Classic slapstick.

Now here is where the set-up with the very, very forgetful scientist girl really pays off with BIG LAUGHS. She goes back to Michael Jackson's bed area and it turns out that the alien squid that she forget to throw in the garbage is now HUGE! This part reminded me of the hilarious movie "Men in Black" where Will Smith gets alien tentacles wrapped around him and screams in a high-pitched voice! Classic Sci-Fi comedy moments all around! Anyway, the forgetful scientist tricks the cranky nap-albino to go near the giant squid, and guess what? It gets him good so she can get away once again with plenty of luck on her side. Amazing!

The movie ends when the forgetful scientist makes friends with the gay robot head that killed her boyfriend and wanted to do the same to her, but hey - let bygones be bygones. Forgive and forget. They sail off together in another ship to go have more zany, whacky space-comedy adventures together! Hooray!

Oh, but wait! At the very, very, very end, an alien hatches out of the cranky nap-guy's belly and spits out its dentures! I wish the funny guy in the old man mask had done that too! I can't wait to see this one again this weekend. I think there are many, many, many other jokes and riddles that were never explained or that I missed while I was laughing at the other stuff. Intentional plot holes are the ultimate prank on the audience. It's like the whole movie just gave you two middle fingers with simultaneous fart noises.

Ten out of ten stars! See this one with your little kids!


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OHHH Lets travel trillions of miles to an alien planet and the first thing we do when we get there is take off our helmets!!!! OHH LOOK!! Black goo!!! Lets touch it!!

Next, lets carry a preserved head back to the ship and do what!!! TURN IT ON??!!! Injecting electricity into its head to do what exactly? Then it explodes?? huh...??

Oh an wow, thats one hell of an abortion!! My props to that bitch! I bet she can suck a mean dick...

Ok moving on... Back to the ship, lets play with the space snake and get killed... Idiots. IDK wtf was that punk rockers problem screaming at everyone and acting like a total douchebag... Travel trillions of miles, then as soon as you get to your destination, you turn around and run away? Screaming at everyone in the process???.... Who recruited this guy? and what drugs were they on??

Lets not forget the the 10 or so plotholes... I have more questions now then when I came in.. Now we know where the ship came from in the original "Alien", but now... hum... Why create life on planets then come back later and destroy them?

The robot infecting the crew member to what extent exactly?
Why did the Engineer just start killing everyone?
Why did that dumb bitch run in the path of the falling ship?
Why did the dumb infected crew member that saw worms in his eye not say anything???
Why did the robot not help the women?
Ect...

I still loved the movie, anything sci-fi is great in my book, but please stop making DUMB shit. Have some common sense when making a movie and write a script around that, DO NOT write a script where stupid guy does stupid shit then finish the movie on that note... Its like they started writing the script one night at a bar and were drinking the entire time, so by the end of the movie they were all drunk and just writing stupid bullshit...

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said by TigerLord:

said by r81984:

You have a skewed scale.
I love scifi movies and dont mind some of the crappier ones, but this movie sucked.
I give it a 1 out of 10.

All you said is that it sucked. Can you at least form one coherent argument to support your position rather than insult people who liked it by telling them they have a warped sense of what a good movie is?

Huh??? The movie did suck. If you if you ignore the rookie movie mistakes, to give it a 7 or 8 out of 10 is very insulting to those of us that know the movie sucked. By saying a 7 or 8 you will trick someone into spending their money on it.
It is the first scifi movie I ever felt I wanted my money back.

The plot of the movie should have made a great movie, but this Ridley Scott guy ruined it. Ridley Scott is too old to make movies and his writers really screwed him on this one also. At 74 he does not seem to understand what he is doing which is sad.

The first scenes were really good. The engineer dissolving himself to create life on earth. The robot was a great character.
It was good until the hologram of Weyland was describing the mission. The the whole movie fell apart.

Remember this is about a humanoid species with really advanced technology and understanding of genetics.
1. It had characters that added 0 to the movie - the pilot, old weyland, vickers. It had non connecting story lines, no flow, no cohesion of the story. It was written and directed poorly with a plot that should have been scifi gold.
2. The ship and structure was not practical. They just made it into a visual scary cave. Remember these engineers are humanoid creators that you saw with the flute, the cuneiform language, have similar thought processes to us.
4. The engineer space suits were just made to look scary, it was a pathetic attempt at trying to make it a scary movie.
3. It was a joke they randomly found the installation on the moon with no scans to tell them to go to that one small strip of land.
4. the magical cave hologram was done poorly. Why a hologram down a random tunnel/hallway?
5. the penis snake was stupid. Couldn't they have done better than a penis???
6. It made no sense that the engineers would leave a map to the distant moon where they are storing basically 'a weapon' to restart all life on earth. Why would you tell people on earth where to find your weapon installation????
7. Obviously these people created life on earth millions of years ago and for some reason 2000 years ago they, or maybe a rival group put that installation on that moon preparing to reset/modify all life on earth, but only after telling the humans on earth the location of their installation.
8. Shaw magically runs around with a fresh slice in her abdomen and staples. She would be bleeding everwhere like crazy. All they had to do was have the machine do some step like a spray or laser, but no they went with magic blood. That was a joke.
9.The black goo was a little strange. It turned seamen into a squid monster in a female that was not fertile. It turned magots into a penis snake. It turned one guy into a human hating monster zombie.
The squid monster grew with no food or water and became an alien queen.
10. They had all that mapping technology and two scientists magically get lost?? WTF. Later they were shown verbally stating their coordinates so they knew where they were.
11. Why did the engineer go to find Shaw instead of going to another ship to complete his mission??? That made no sense.
12. They really tried hard with that religion connection. Have they learned nothing from Matrix and Lost???
13. The trailer deceived us into thinking the movie was good.
14. Ridley Scott failed to bring everything together to make a good movie. His job should have been easy and he screwed it up.


As I said I never felt I needed my money back from a scifi movie before Prometheus.
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said by Snakeoil:

Agreed. I tend to think people over think a movie and don't appreciate what is going on the screen.
(spoiler)

I don't care if there is no chance at FTL, work hole travel, time travel, or if the science they are talking about can't exist. All I can about is it entertaining and fun.

If I want a factual movie, then I'd watch something from National Geographic or the Discovery channel.

Scifi is not factual.
But in good scifi you set rules and play in those rules.
Every show has its own set of rules and physics.

Where Prometheus when wrong was they had no set rules. The writers just make random shit up as they went along.
The movie took a great plot and very poorly implemented trying to squeeze in their little snippets.
Its like several people independently wrote some events/scenes down on playing cards and shuffled them. Then randomly picked some cards in whatever order they were in and just made up stupid filler in between.
That is not good scifi. Hell it did not even have good action.
I have no idea who they wrote that movie for, but it was not scifi fans. Just think about the scifi you like and how you would feel if it were written like prometheus.
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I understand exactly. I really love sci-fy, but this movie was nothing but eye candy... Its like they recruited retards from the side of the road to conduct this mission...
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Let me address some of your criticism. Some is founded, but you're reaching on some of them.


1. It had characters that added 0 to the movie - the pilot, old weyland, vickers. It had non connecting story lines, no flow, no cohesion of the story. It was written and directed poorly with a plot that should have been scifi gold.
The pilot was the moral compass of the entire team. Old Weyland was the representation of greed and the everlasting pursuit of immortality. Vickers was indeed useless, except perhaps she was the only really sane person of the entire expedition: she wanted to leave the second they set foot on the planet.

2. The ship and structure was not practical. They just made it into a visual scary cave. Remember these engineers are humanoid creators that you saw with the flute, the cuneiform language, have similar thought processes to us.
Compared to what? The Enterprise? The Super Deathstar? Function is served by whatever they need. I did not find the engineer ship to be overly superfluous.

4. The engineer space suits were just made to look scary, it was a pathetic attempt at trying to make it a scary movie.
I think it fitted their overall look well. Would you have rather they look like the ridiculous aliens in Battleship? I thought the suits were fine

3. It was a joke they randomly found the installation on the moon with no scans to tell them to go to that one small strip of land.
They clearly state there are many such installations across the whole planet, as each is a docking station for a ship and David explicitly mentions there is a whole network of ships

4. the magical cave hologram was done poorly. Why a hologram down a random tunnel/hallway?
Magical? You clearly see the geologist popping those scanning orbs out of his bags and launching them. I thought they were cool.

5. the penis snake was stupid. Couldn't they have done better than a penis???
Only thing stupid about the penis snake was the stupid biologist playing with it. You clearly see the small worms swimming in the black stuff early on, it's only natural that small works become bigger worms.

6. It made no sense that the engineers would leave a map to the distant moon where they are storing basically 'a weapon' to restart all life on earth. Why would you tell people on earth where to find your weapon installation????
The Engineer's rationale for wanting to destroy us is never explained. The map they find at the beginning in Scotland is 35,000 years old, but we know that the Engineers created the Aliens to destroy us 2,000 years ago. So it stands to reason they did not always want to destroy us, they might really have invited us to visit them at one point. What changed their mind remains a mystery. It'll probably be answered in the next movie.

7. Obviously these people created life on earth millions of years ago and for some reason 2000 years ago they, or maybe a rival group put that installation on that moon preparing to reset/modify all life on earth, but only after telling the humans on earth the location of their installation.
See previous point. We don't know yet why they changed their minds.
It's either a plot hole or a loose end left open for the next movie which is likely to happen considering how the movie ended.

8. Shaw magically runs around with a fresh slice in her abdomen and staples. She would be bleeding everwhere like crazy. All they had to do was have the machine do some step like a spray or laser, but no they went with magic blood. That was a joke.
I had trouble with that one too. Considering they have the technology to put people in cryosleep, it's entirely possible whatever anesthetics she injects herself with has regenerative properties as well. It does require a shitload of suspension of disbelief to follow through on that one.

9.The black goo was a little strange. It turned seamen into a squid monster in a female that was not fertile. It turned magots into a penis snake. It turned one guy into a human hating monster zombie.
The squid monster grew with no food or water and became an alien queen.

The black goo modifies the host to accommodate whatever lifeforms will lead to the creation of an alien as quickly as possible. The squid in Shaw was obviously mean to suck her face in as soon as it was born (which leads to we know what). The penis snake serves a similar function I think, since it behaved similarly to how the giant squid at the end did. I suppose in absence of a squid or a penis snake to modify your DNA and use equal matter conversion to harvest an alien inside you, the black goo turns you into a mad zombie?

10. They had all that mapping technology and two scientists magically get lost?? WTF. Later they were shown verbally stating their coordinates so they knew where they were.
That was fucking dumb, yeah.

11. Why did the engineer go to find Shaw instead of going to another ship to complete his mission??? That made no sense.
He was probably pissed off that the bitch crashed his ship and almost killed him, so he thought he rip her head out for fun THEN proceed to the next ship. There was probably no rush for him.

12. They really tried hard with that religion connection. Have they learned nothing from Matrix and Lost???
Damon Lindelhof is a moron. See my first post in this thread.

13. The trailer deceived us into thinking the movie was good.
That's what trailers are meant to do.

14. Ridley Scott failed to bring everything together to make a good movie. His job should have been easy and he screwed it up.
Well he didn't make the best movie possible but it wasn't a total flop.


This is sci-fi, the genre that along with fantasy requires quite a bit of suspension of disbelief. You sound like an angry fan that went in with epically high expectations and came out insulted your every dreams were not realized.

Look, the movie is not perfect and there are plenty of dumb mistakes the characters make that are so totally unforgivable. But you can't deny the visuals are stunning and some of the moments were really WTF-inducing. When the engineer is fighting off the giant squid and you see the huge thing finally suck him in, I grossed me out completely .

Prometheus isn't perfect but saying it's the first movie that made you want your money back is kind of delusional.

What sci-fi movies do you hold so dear they are perfection to your eyes?


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I love suspending reality to see a movie like this... What bothers me is the total LACK of common sense they wrote into the characters...

"Your personally selected for a trillion dollar mission to discover an alien civilation half way across the galaxy, and the first thing you do when you get there is take off your helmet!!!!! Touch the black goo!!! Act like a total douchbag and run away, then get lost!!!"

I was watching the movie tonight just in AWE at the stupidity of the writing!

YES I LOVE sci-fy! And you have to suspend reality to enjoy it! But I cant understand suspending common sense as-well.. If this is the kind of crap they are going to put out... I will refuse to pay anything for any type of content!

I already download everything I watch on tv for free, But I will go and spend money on the types of movies I like to watch! Just to support it! But common. Dont take me for a fool. Write something that make sense and actually spend more than a few nights doing it.
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