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tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN

[Cable] How can I force TWC to carry all the RSN's?

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry? My situation is that I live in Terre Haute (West Central Indiana) and TWC carries FSN Midwest and FSN Ohio but does not carry CSN Chicago. As a Cubs fan, that annoys me; especially considering the fact that my area is pretty much spilt between the Cubs and Cardinals, with the Reds and Whitesox's behind. Is there anyway I can place pressure on TWC in order them to listen? Or perhaps is this a technical issue that prevents them from carrying all 3?


ke4pym
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join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC

Become CEO of TWC and negotiate a contract with FSN?

Might be easier to switch to a sat. provider.



CylonRed
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reply to tjb122982

No - you personally can't force a company that makes millions in profits to carry a channel you want....
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tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN
reply to tjb122982

Would a petition and/or website work?



CylonRed
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Bloom County

No.... A VERY large numbers of current users would need to agree to drop TWC if they don't carry the channel and the likely hood of enough dropping - nil to none. Even if you got promises to drop TWC - people won't follow thru.

TWC will simply allow you to switch to a carrier that does carry the extra channel.
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Brian

"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain


comp
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Evans City, PA

Yup, only option is really to switch to Direct TV



PremTech101

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Only option? Uhh, no.
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btB

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reply to tjb122982

The "C" in CSN Chicago stands for Comcast. Maybe that has something to do with. I am not in that area, so I have no idea. Do other cable companies that are not Time Warner or Comcast carry that channel in your region? Usually though, it just comes down to whether the provider thinks carrying the channel is worth the cost.


comp
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reply to PremTech101

Uhh Yes. Direct TV is the only company to carry Every RSN



pende_tim
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Even though DirecTV carries all the RSNs, how many are actually able to be viewed out of market? The concept of Blackouts come to mind.
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PremTech101

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said by pende_tim:

Even though DirecTV carries all the RSNs, how many are actually able to be viewed out of market? The concept of Blackouts come to mind.

^ this
PTU


88615298
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reply to tjb122982

said by tjb122982:

Would a petition and/or website work?

yeah that'll work. big companies are always scared of petitions.

tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN
reply to PremTech101

said by PremTech101 :

said by pende_tim:

Even though DirecTV carries all the RSNs, how many are actually able to be viewed out of market? The concept of Blackouts come to mind.

^ this
PTU

I have already thought of that. For some reason it would be a big hassle because we have a finished basement, my parents didn't want to do it.

tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN
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said by 88615298:

said by tjb122982:

Would a petition and/or website work?

yeah that'll work. big companies are always scared of petitions.

I pick up sacrasm.


88615298
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said by tjb122982:

said by 88615298:

said by tjb122982:

Would a petition and/or website work?

yeah that'll work. big companies are always scared of petitions.

I pick up sacrasm.

Really? I wasn't sure since you thought

A) you could force TV providers to do anything

B) online petitions actually work.


Hayward
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said by tjb122982:

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry?

Uhh volunteer to PAY for them???
And don't bet on that doing it to. Plus local cable it could be stupid black out rules.

But personally as a person that gives NADA about sports in general, why is 50% of my bill that cost for the "FREE" chs? That is what sports bars are for... drink and have communal fun, but you are still paying for it at home and never watch there???

Now why is it the sports people just won't say no??? Well that would be OBVIOUS because they are getting a FREE ride from us that could give a crap... that still pay for ESPN and the other NOT
'FREE" crap we never watch at their benefit.

So yeah the "right" serfs gladly riding the Lord'`s horse, at the other's they feel superior to could care less cost.

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reply to pende_tim

said by pende_tim:

Even though DirecTV carries all the RSNs, how many are actually able to be viewed out of market? The concept of Blackouts come to mind.

»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/co···=3450006


Steve Mehs
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Is Comcast Sports Net Chicago really one of your home RSNs or would it be useful only for Cubs and White Sox games? Are the Blackhawks your home NHL team? Are the Bulls your home NBA team and are the Fire your home MLS team?

Team boundaries, markets, and RSN coverage areas do not always coincide. Example, I live outside of Buffalo, NY. We have no real home MLB team here, in addition to the Yankees and Mets, who claim the entire state of NY and some areas of PA, NJ and CT, the Cleveland Indians and Pittsburgh Pirates are also my ‘home’ teams. On DirecTV (lets forget Dish Network even exists since we’re talking sports here), if I have the Sports Pak, and I do, I would get all Pirates games in the clear on Root Sports Pittsburgh and all Indians games in the clear on Sports Time Ohio. All other pro sports would be blacked out on those channels. Now, Time Warner Cable does not carry either RS Pitt or STO in my area, as they are really are not my home RSNs. If I, and I usually do, order MLB Extra Innings, Pirates and Indians games ARE NOT blacked out on MLB EI on cable. Would you say your general situation is similar, or not?

Due to these oddball situations, in some areas, especially if you live in an area like you or I do, you may get an extra team with satellite or visa verse.

Here is the MLB Coverage Map.

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I'm guessing the reason TW does not carry CSN Chicago in your area is that you do not qualify to receive 100% of all the pro sports the channel covers.
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Steve Mehs
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reply to Hayward

said by Hayward:

said by tjb122982:

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry?

Uhh volunteer to PAY for them???
And don't bet on that doing it to. Plus local cable it could be stupid black out rules.

But personally as a person that gives NADA about sports in general, why is 50% of my bill that cost for the "FREE" chs? That is what sports bars are for... drink and have communal fun, but you are still paying for it at home and never watch there???

Now why is it the sports people just won't say no??? Well that would be OBVIOUS because they are getting a FREE ride from us that could give a crap... that still pay for ESPN and the other NOT
'FREE" crap we never watch at their benefit.

So yeah the "right" serfs gladly riding the Lord'`s horse, at the other's they feel superior to could care less cost.

As a huge sports fan, I always laugh when people complain about the cost of sports on TV. While I would just die without my Buffalo Sabres, chalk me up as an NFL, NHL, MLB and NASCAR fan. I’m also starting to get into box lacrosse. I will watch college and minor league sports, but only if my teams are involved.

I don’t find sports bars enjoyable. I don’t drink alcohol, and I don’t enjoy being around others when they consume alcohol. So why should I go there? I want to watch my sports in the comfort of my own home, on my own TV. Nothing like not being able to not hear the TV while a bunch of drunks are yelling and acting like idiots. I’ll take my own high end 55” TV, with my own Dolby 5.1 set up, with my own DVRs so I can re-watch key plays.

Thanks for subsidizing my sports addition, I (and the fine folks at Disney) appreciate it

We need more sports channels! I'd like to see some more American Hockey League coverage, and I'd like more NLL acction then just CBS Sports Networks game of the week.
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.

tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN

said by Steve Mehs:

said by Hayward:

said by tjb122982:

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry?

Uhh volunteer to PAY for them???
And don't bet on that doing it to. Plus local cable it could be stupid black out rules.

But personally as a person that gives NADA about sports in general, why is 50% of my bill that cost for the "FREE" chs? That is what sports bars are for... drink and have communal fun, but you are still paying for it at home and never watch there???

Now why is it the sports people just won't say no??? Well that would be OBVIOUS because they are getting a FREE ride from us that could give a crap... that still pay for ESPN and the other NOT
'FREE" crap we never watch at their benefit.

So yeah the "right" serfs gladly riding the Lord'`s horse, at the other's they feel superior to could care less cost.

As a huge sports fan, I always laugh when people complain about the cost of sports on TV. While I would just die without my Buffalo Sabres, chalk me up as an NFL, NHL, MLB and NASCAR fan. I’m also starting to get into box lacrosse. I will watch college and minor league sports, but only if my teams are involved.

I don’t find sports bars enjoyable. I don’t drink alcohol, and I don’t enjoy being around others when they consume alcohol. So why should I go there? I want to watch my sports in the comfort of my own home, on my own TV. Nothing like not being able to not hear the TV while a bunch of drunks are yelling and acting like idiots. I’ll take my own high end 55” TV, with my own Dolby 5.1 set up, with my own DVRs so I can re-watch key plays.

Thanks for subsidizing my sports addition, I (and the fine folks at Disney) appreciate it

We need more sports channels! I'd like to see some more American Hockey League coverage, and I'd like more NLL acction then just CBS Sports Networks game of the week.

I actually have the same sentiments. Cable TV just seems kind of stupid to me without sports. I hate reality TV so the only shows I actually watch are on FX (may God Bless Always Sunny) and AMC plus the high end programming on HBO (such as Broadwalk Empire) and Showtime. Everything else is reality TV and movies and reruns that I have on DVD somewhere.

Now with that being said, I believe IPTV and Google Fiber project are the future. I don't see subscription TV ever going away but I can see it becoming more A La Carte such as a package with sports channels, movie channels et cetera.


maartena
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said by tjb122982:

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry?

Nope.

Go with DirecTV, they carry the MOST sports of all providers.

You'll have blackouts of course on the RSN's, but you can purchase premium packages like NFL Sunday Ticket, MLB Extra Innings, etc, that will get you all the games. Not cheap, but for about $700 a year, you can get pretty much ALL games of ALL the 5 main sports, being NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, and MLS.

Also: There is a good chance your cable provider already carries MLB Extra Innings. If that is the case, and it is baseball you are interested in, you can subscribe to MLB Extra Innings for about $200 a year which will give you ALL MLB games of the entire season.

Sometimes cable providers have half-season deals, e.g. "get the rest of the season for only $100" or so.
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tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN

said by maartena:

said by tjb122982:

Is there a way I can force TWC to carry all 3 of the RSN's that both DTV and Dish carry?

Nope.

Go with DirecTV, they carry the MOST sports of all providers.

You'll have blackouts of course on the RSN's, but you can purchase premium packages like NFL Sunday Ticket, MLB Extra Innings, etc, that will get you all the games. Not cheap, but for about $700 a year, you can get pretty much ALL games of ALL the 5 main sports, being NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, and MLS.

Also: There is a good chance your cable provider already carries MLB Extra Innings. If that is the case, and it is baseball you are interested in, you can subscribe to MLB Extra Innings for about $200 a year which will give you ALL MLB games of the entire season.

Sometimes cable providers have half-season deals, e.g. "get the rest of the season for only $100" or so.

I would go with DirecTV but since we have a finished basement, doing the wiring would be a big hassle in addition to a steep ETF from Time Warner. I guess I have to wait until I am able to move out.


Hayward
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said by Steve Mehs:

I don’t find sports bars enjoyable. I don’t drink alcohol, and I don’t enjoy being around others when they consume alcohol. So why should I go there? I want to watch my sports in the comfort of my own home, on my own TV.

Then being willing to PAY for it and stop bitching there aren't enough "free" sports channels.

I don't mind a sports bar now and then for games I want to see. And what on earth do you need sound for??? Are you blind??? You just want to hear some announcer blather endless and here all those ads? And usually most I've been to for a big game they do have the sound on.

PS it is not a LAW you must drink alcohol in a bar. I often space them out with water and soda.
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Steve Mehs
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quote:
Then being willing to PAY for it and stop bitching there aren't enough "free" sports channels.
I’m not bitching about anything. Not sure where you got that from. I subscribe to the premium sports tiers on both Time Warner and DirecTV, I subscribe to NHL Center Ice, MLB Extra Innings and I get ESPN Game Plan every once in a while, and this year, I’m going to get NFL Sunday Ticket.

quote:
And what on earth do you need sound for??? Are you blind??? You just want to hear some announcer blather endless and here all those ads? And usually most I've been to for a big game they do have the sound on.
I want to hear the call of the game, I want to hear the pre game, I want to hear analysis, I want to hear the post-game press conferences. For Sabres hockey, I want to hear Rick Jeanneret. For NASCAR, when it’s on Fox, I want to Crank It Up.

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PS it is not a LAW you must drink alcohol in a bar. I often space them out with water and soda.
I guess you missed the part about me not wanting to be around drunks and not enjoying the whole bar atmosphere watching an event on their inferior set ups. Why would I want to go somewhere that I don't enjoy going to, when I can accomplish the same thing at home?

Your anti sports rants make me laugh.
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Hayward
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said by Steve Mehs:

quote:
PS it is not a LAW you must drink alcohol in a bar. I often space them out with water and soda.
I guess you missed the part about me not wanting to be around drunks and not enjoying the whole bar atmosphere watching an event on their inferior set ups.

Guess you have never been to a live game either then, that is part and parcel of american "sports"

Again don't ask me to subsidize you sanitized version.
You seem super premium happy so how about paying for ALL of it, like ESPN and the other "free" crap non or casual sports fans pay for but considering that is 50% of the bill consider not worth it.
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maartena
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said by tjb122982:

I would go with DirecTV but since we have a finished basement, doing the wiring would be a big hassle in addition to a steep ETF from Time Warner. I guess I have to wait until I am able to move out.

Two things you should know....

First, DirecTV can use the same cabling. If it is RG6 type cabling, which is what would have been used in the last 10-15 years or so, you are probably good to go. The DirecTV guy will probably replace the connectors on the end (that's what they did here) and use the existing cabling to hook it up. Only thing you need is a tie-in somewhere for the dish, but that would happen closer to the dish than to the basement.

Second, MLB Extra Innings does not get bound into a contract, it is an extra package on top of your cable bill. I'm sure your parents wouldn't mind adding it if you tell them you would pay for it. (Especially not if your dad is a MLB fan too). So you can sign up for it now on cable, and just not sign up for it next season if you are ready to move out.

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Steve Mehs
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I’ve been to plenty of sporting events. 13 NASCAR races, 1 Yankees game in NYC, and tons of Bills and Sabres games over the years along with a few Bandits LAX games. For NASCAR races I typically sit in the family section where smoking and alcohol is prohibited. Beer prices at sporting events are typically high enough for people not to display drunken stupidness.

I don’t have to ask you to subsidize ESPN or any other sports channel, because you already do! And I’m enjoying every single second of it! Hahaha.
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tjb122982

join:2009-09-22
Terre Haute, IN
reply to maartena

said by maartena:

said by tjb122982:

I would go with DirecTV but since we have a finished basement, doing the wiring would be a big hassle in addition to a steep ETF from Time Warner. I guess I have to wait until I am able to move out.

Two things you should know....

First, DirecTV can use the same cabling. If it is RG6 type cabling, which is what would have been used in the last 10-15 years or so, you are probably good to go. The DirecTV guy will probably replace the connectors on the end (that's what they did here) and use the existing cabling to hook it up. Only thing you need is a tie-in somewhere for the dish, but that would happen closer to the dish than to the basement.

Second, MLB Extra Innings does not get bound into a contract, it is an extra package on top of your cable bill. I'm sure your parents wouldn't mind adding it if you tell them you would pay for it. (Especially not if your dad is a MLB fan too). So you can sign up for it now on cable, and just not sign up for it next season if you are ready to move out.

I'll have to ask my Dad but I don't think they will go for it. The house is 20 years old. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Thanks for tip however.


Hayward
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said by Steve Mehs:

I’ve been to plenty of sporting events. 13 NASCAR races, 1 Yankees game in NYC, and tons of Bills and Sabres games over the years along with a few Bandits LAX games.

And you say ZERO alcohol influence at all in those venues.

Sorry like $200+ dollars forNFL Sunday RIP OFF, I can tolerate a sports bar fot the FEW games I want to seen

Or again me subsidizing you for ESPN which is a HUGE amount of money.

Know a sorts bar that paid for Sunday rip off but was stilll expected to pay another $500/mo just for ESPN.
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88615298
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said by Hayward:

Sorry like $200+ dollars for NFL Sunday RIP OFF,

$200 for Sunday Ticket is not a rip off. About the same as what MLB, NHL and NBA charge. And it's $140 less than what it was last year.