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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

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[OOL] Can't get max boost speeds on wireless laptop; normal?

I can get the max speeds on my wired desktop but my laptop which is not wired and only about 30ft away can get only speeds up to 30mbps down! Up is 8mbps which is fine! But if I bring my laptop near the router I can get almost max speeds. My laptop is a few months old Dell Inspiron. I run my speedtests on speetest.net I have a Netgear N300 Wireless Router. What is the problem? Is maybe my router too weak to support this high bandwidth?

My girlfriend lives in a 2 story house and her Netgear N600 Wireless Dual Band Router is on the 2nd floor. She has regular OOL. She lives on the first floor and if she gets a good connection which is usually her room she can get max speeds if nobody is using the internet.


Jackarino
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You'll never get max speeds on WiFi from what I have seen over my years of experience



Thinkdiff
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reply to valk_2k
802.11g's max one-way throughput is roughly 20-25Mbps real-world, which lines up pretty closely to your speeds.

Do you know if you're using 802.11n? Check either the settings on the router or the connection speed in your WiFi card's settings. 802.11n should support ~100Mbps.
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

reply to Jackarino

said by Jackarino:

You'll never get max speeds on WiFi from what I have seen over my years of experience

I dunno about that because if I bring my laptop close to my router I get like 45-55mbps! If I just bring my laptop 30ft my speeds are cut in half. Is my router really that weak!? I have a Intel Centrino Wireless N-1030 chip btw


Thinkdiff
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Did you verify it's actually running on 802.11n?

Are you using 2.4GHz or 5GHz? If your router supports it, try switching to 5GHz.

You can also try different channels that might have less interference.
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

said by Thinkdiff:

Did you verify it's actually running on 802.11n?

Are you using 2.4GHz or 5GHz? If your router supports it, try switching to 5GHz.

You can also try different channels that might have less interference.

I just ran a speed test next to my router I got 54mbps down! Took it back to my living room and got only 25mbps! I dunno how much ghz my router supports and I dunno how to check if my chip is actually running on 802.11n! I have this router btw »www.staples.com/Netgear-N300-Wir···t_746737

I did have a technician that came to my house once to repair my cable told me I should get a gigabit router to get max speeds but I didn't know if he's right.


Thinkdiff
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Your router does have Gigabit ethernet, but it's irrelevant for Boost Plus and Wifi anyway.

That router seems to only support the 2.4GHz band. The best you can do is login to the router and change the wireless channel to something else (hopefully less populated).
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

reply to valk_2k
Since my router is not 5ghz is that the problem? And my router doesn't support gigabit but only up to 300mb!



Thinkdiff
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It's only a problem if the 2.4GHz wireless spectrum is completely congested. 5GHz wireless routers are less common so there's a better chance the spectrum won't be crowded.

And your router has gigabit ethernet. The wireless card is limited to 300Mb.
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

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Isn't a gigabit router something like this »www.staples.com/Netgear-N300-Wir···t_853556

I have the Netgear N300 without the gigabit!

Also I tried switching around the channels and not much of a difference. Besides isn't switching the channels just necessary if you have signal issues? My wifi signals are great.



Thinkdiff
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My mistake. I thought N300 was the model of router. I guess it's just the series. Pretty stupid numbering scheme by Netgear.

Seems like you have signal issues if your wireless speed drops from 45Mb to 20Mb after a few feet. I get 100Mb+ on my Wireless-N network 2 rooms away from my router.
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

reply to valk_2k
I mentioned earlier I have great signal! All the bars sometimes 1 bar empty and seldom more. This issue is a hard one to crack, would a gigabit router help maybe?



Thinkdiff
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"Bars" don't really mean a whole lot. Interference could be sporadic.

No, a gigabit router would probably not help unless there's something seriously wrong with your current router - in that case, replacing it with any new router would have the same effect. Gigabit is just for the ethernet ports. You're limited by the wireless connection, so it won't help at all.

A 5GHz Wireless-N router may help if the issue is congestion/interference.

You can use inSSIDer to search for nearby wireless networks. It will show you which channels they're on and their relative signal strengths. If there are a lot of wireless routers on the same channels you're trying to use, the throughput will suffer.
»www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
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valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

reply to valk_2k
Well there's only 11 channels for me to choose from and I already tried like 4 and nothing helped.


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The only channels you should try are one, six and eleven. The rest are basically irrelevant for the average user since channels one and six interfere with two through five.
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limegrass69
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reply to valk_2k
Maybe check in with the guys on the wireless networking forum on this site. This seems like a router issue, not an OOL issue.

What you're seeing can be typical wireless performance. It will be impacted by nearby wireless interference, your network card and your router.


dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ

reply to valk_2k
I have the same router. Also had speed issues. Go into Belkin config under channel ans ssid and set bandwidth to 20mhz only not 20/40.


valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

reply to valk_2k
Could it be my wifi chip in the laptop is damaged? I did try another router and had the same issue.



SHoTTa35

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You have the Intel 1030 which has a 1x2 radio so you wont get the best speeds with that anyways. Your WIFI is not damaged, you just have the cheapest one possible. I don't even think that chip supports 5Ghz anyways:

»ark.intel.com/products/59481/Int···gle-Band

Actually yeah it doesn't so buying a 5Ghz router wont help since your wireless can't isn't compatible. Basically you have a Honda Civic and expecting Porche performance Stickers do no make your car go faster!

You'll need either the Intel 6200 (2x2 radio) or the 6300 (3x3 radio) which might help but then again the Belkin router you have is apparently junk too. If you can buy a Netgear 3700 (those are older and cheaper now) or the Linksys E2700/3200 series you'll be doing much better.

As for interence, just remember there are plenty of other things that cause issues that wont show up in a scan on your laptop.

baby monitors, bluetooth devices, wireless keyboard/mouse/speakers, wireless doorbells, RC race cars/planes, etc.

So while you are next to the router you'll get good signal quality (strength is almost irrelevant so don't pay attention to "bars") once you step away you wont get the same speeds because it has to fight more devices to reach your laptop.


valk_2k

join:2009-08-01
Brooklyn, NY

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reply to valk_2k
Thanks it seems to make perfect sense now lol. I mentioned earlier about my girlfriend. She lives in a 2 story house and her Netgear N600 Wireless Dual Band Router is on the 2nd floor. She has regular OOL (15mbps/2mbps). She lives on the first floor and if she gets a good connection which is usually her room she can get max speeds if nobody is using the internet. Heck, I have seen her speeds go up to 20mbps. She has the same wifi chip just a better router. I thought in the beginning I should've gotten the router she has but living in a small apt I thought I shouldn't bother.

And I don't have a Belkin router but Netgear N300.


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