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kittyzmom2

join:2008-06-10
Suffern, NY

Need wifi N now that I have 75/35...best way to get it?

I just upgraded my internet from 35/35 to 75/35 on Friday, but I discovered I can only get 75 Mbps download speed wired. I didn't find that out until yesterday when I contacted Verizon, and they informed me that my router isn't even capable of the 75 Mbps download speed via wifi. I have the standard Fios Actiontec router with max wifi speed 54 Mbps, and I can't even get that much.

I know wifi can be affected by several factors, so I wasn't expecting the max, but I can't get anything more than 38-39 Mbps. I was online with Verizon tech support yesterday for a long time, including being transferred to a supervisor. They tried several things on their end, but they couldn't improve my download speeds.

Meanwhile...all my devices are equipped for wireless N, so I wanted to know the best way to get it. Should I upgrade to the Fios N router, which I apparently can only order online? I checked with a couple of Verizon stores near me and they both told me the physical stores don't carry the N router.

Or should I buy a 3rd party wireless N router and bridge it to my current router? Is that more or less effective than upgrading my Fios router, or is it equal? And what is the best way to set up the two routers to work properly? I'm familiar with adjusting router settings onscreen, so I am not concerned with trying

Thanks in advance!


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
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I went with the Trendnet Easy-N Upgrader. It's a 802.11n WAP that supports up to 300Mbps. Just plug it into a spare port on your router. No bridging necessary.
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Jackarino
YacCity
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Allendale, NJ
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I had that for a while and it worked great

kittyzmom2

join:2008-06-10
Suffern, NY
reply to More Fiber
said by More Fiber:

I went with the Trendnet Easy-N Upgrader. It's a 802.11n WAP that supports up to 300Mbps. Just plug it into a spare port on your router. No bridging necessary.

Thanks for the suggestion. Will any brand 802.11n WAP work pretty much the same way...just plug into a spare port? I've never used one of them. Sounds much simpler than what I thought I had to do (and cheaper!)

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
Some are also routers so you have to manually (or perhaps through a setup wizard) put them in bridge mode so they won't hand out IP numbers and cause some internal network "issues" (that you may or may not even notice). I have an Apple Airport Extreme setup in bridge mode that works great. All my other products are Apple as well, so it made sense to go that route for me. Sounds like More Fiber's device would be quite easy to setup.

guppy_fish
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join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:3
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reply to kittyzmom2
said by kittyzmom2:

Thanks for the suggestion. Will any brand 802.11n WAP work pretty much the same way...just plug into a spare port? I've never used one of them. Sounds much simpler than what I thought I had to do (and cheaper!)

There is a wide variations in actual performance between different manufactures "N" products, in your case stay with something that's proven, the TEW-637AP is very widely used and has been reported as a top performer

The only thing you will need to do is enable encryption and set a pass-code, a true AP is the simplest of all to setup


Omvlsd

@verizon.net
reply to kes601
I current use a TEW-637AP directly connected to my AT Rev. F. The AP works great, it has better range than the AT's built-in AP. Make sure that the wireless channel number on the TEW-637AP is different than the AT's, to avoid a conflict.

Speaking of conflict ...

I have a second AT Rev. F that I would like to use. I would like to put it in a basement room because the signal from the TEW-637AP is rather weak here. The basement room has coax only. I have a combination of wired and wireless devices in the basement, so I would like to use the second AT as both a switch and an AP. Does anybody know how to configure both ATs so they are cooperative and non-conflicting? Thank you all.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
said by Omvlsd :

I current use a TEW-637AP directly connected to my AT Rev. F. The AP works great, it has better range than the AT's built-in AP. Make sure that the wireless channel number on the TEW-637AP is different than the AT's, to avoid a conflict.

Speaking of conflict ...

I have a second AT Rev. F that I would like to use. I would like to put it in a basement room because the signal from the TEW-637AP is rather weak here. The basement room has coax only. I have a combination of wired and wireless devices in the basement, so I would like to use the second AT as both a switch and an AP. Does anybody know how to configure both ATs so they are cooperative and non-conflicting? Thank you all.

The FAQ explains how to setup the second Actiontec in Bridge Mode:

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I get an ethernet connection in a room with only coax?

Edit: I see I was too slow on the Post Button, More Fiber beat me to it.


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:31
reply to Omvlsd
said by Omvlsd :

Does anybody know how to configure both ATs so they are cooperative and non-conflicting?

»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Can I get an ethernet connection in a room with only coax?
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Vamp
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MD
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reply to kittyzmom2
Even with N I wouldn't ever expect to max the connection.. You can practically ignore the max advertised speed of wireless N as you wont see that kind of sustained speed in real world, you will be very fortunate to even get half of the "Connected" speed.

40Mhz mode on 5Ghz would be the most likely way to get close to that sustained speed over wireless. However the only guarantee would be to upgrade router (or add AP) and adapters to the new 802.11ac draft, but you might sacrafice reliability because it's still in draft status.
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msanta
FIOS

join:2005-05-30
Merrick, NY
reply to kittyzmom2
So the Actiontec has to be used together with the third party router you may get.


More Fiber
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join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:31
said by msanta:

So the Actiontec has to be used together with the third party router you may get.

Only if you have FIOS-TV.
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HBGPA

@verizon.net
If you aren't using the FIOS TV service just ditch the Actiontec and use your own router. I am using the Linksys E4200 and it works great. If you are using the FIOS TV service, there is a way (many available guides if you search) you can set up the Actiontec secondary to another router, like the Linksys and that non-Actiontec router can be used as the primary while VOD and everything else works. This is how I have it setup at my house.


aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to Vamp
said by Vamp:

Even with N I wouldn't ever expect to max the connection.. You can practically ignore the max advertised speed of wireless N as you wont see that kind of sustained speed in real world, you will be very fortunate to even get half of the "Connected" speed.

40Mhz mode on 5Ghz would be the most likely way to get close to that sustained speed over wireless. However the only guarantee would be to upgrade router (or add AP) and adapters to the new 802.11ac draft, but you might sacrafice reliability because it's still in draft status.

If setup properly and a decent AP you should certainly be able to max out a 75Mb/s connection. I easily get faster throughput rates from my wireless N(2.4Ghz and 5Ghz) APs I have setup in my condo when transferrring between a laptop and my network storage.(unRAIDs and WHS)


mmay149q
Premium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48
reply to Vamp
said by Vamp:

Even with N I wouldn't ever expect to max the connection.. You can practically ignore the max advertised speed of wireless N as you wont see that kind of sustained speed in real world, you will be very fortunate to even get half of the "Connected" speed.

Well I don't know about that, I have a D-Link Wireless N gaming router that when it came out didn't even fully support wireless N, now it may be my neighborhood, but I have it on 5GHZ with 40MHZ and get about 280Mbps throughput on it to my HTPC sitting in the living room, the only reason I know this is because I ripped Season 1 of the Big Bang Theory to my hard drive and pushed all 10GB's of it over at once in less than 5 minutes.... Buuuuuuuuut then again you kind of already covered this, and so I'm just talking for nothing, but have faith in the 5GHZ spectrum unless everything surrounding you uses it!

Matt
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