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pnh102
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Wow...

So they really are playing up the whole "Women and Minorities Hardest Hit" claim? Heh.
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said by pnh102:

So they really are playing up the whole "Women and Minorities Hardest Hit" claim? Heh.

Sorry if it's a stereotype.. but the Cable industry seems to disproportionately employ minorities and women (particularly through 3rd party contractors) because they can pay them less. However, one really doesn't have anything (significant) to do with the cable industry's lack of innovation and evolution of their business model.

Cable TV as it stands is a stale and saturated business and past it's prime as it exists today. In 3-5 years there will be a greater demand to replace dumb HDTV's with SMART HDTVs.. and the cable-tv business model will be supplanted by on-demand multi-media business model. The cable industry will have to get a whole lot cheaper and innovative in a quick hurry or lose out to the internet and other providers of video & multimedia services.

I've had my fill of various special interest commercials from lawyers to oil companies, political ads, to widget infomercials. No longer will that occupy my time just to make the cable industry richer than a subscription. Upto 40% of every programming hour can be pushing commericals. This is unsustainable and consumers are balking in droves. Add the $7 for a set-top rental box slap in the face too! Slowly, these companies are screwing up VOIP and Internet service as well with higher rates and fees, crummy terms of service and forced bundling.


pnh102
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I couldn't care less who gets impacted... I dropped cable TV after they insisted I pay just south of a car payment for service. No can do.
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jvanbrecht

join:2007-01-08
Bowie, MD
What kind of car are you driving.. Just south of a car payment for me would have me practically owning a station after my 5 year loan is up.. okay so maybe not quite owning.. but I do not know too many cars that are in the $150 to $250 range, which I am guessing is the avg cable bill in most houses..

My car payment is close to $800....

Telco

join:2008-12-19
reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

I dropped cable TV after they insisted I pay just south of a car payment for service. No can do.

I finally agree with you regarding this point.

I couldn't care less who gets impacted...

Very republican response. Just ironic that you guys want to 'borrow' and waste trillions upon trillions 'defending' the very same nation and people you 'do not care' about. Well imbecilic actually.


ArrayList
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reply to jvanbrecht
is $150-250 an acceptable price for cable tv these days? yikes?!


pnh102
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reply to Telco
said by Telco:

Very republican response. Just ironic that you guys want to 'borrow' and waste trillions upon trillions 'defending' the very same nation and people you 'do not care' about. Well imbecilic actually.

I'm sorry, but your president is an absolute complete and total failure at just about everything. When we finally recover from this protracted depression, have more people employed again, get the national debt under control (I'm even being generous by not listing other problems that this idiot caused or exacerbated), then you can lecture me about politics.

Heck, we can just start by having your failure of a president not blame Bush for everything he can't do. We'll go from there.
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pnh102
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reply to jvanbrecht
said by jvanbrecht:

My car payment is close to $800....

My last car payment was $300 a month. My last cable bill with the TV included was $170 a month. To me, "car payment territory" is $200 a month and higher.
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skuv

@rr.com
reply to tmc8080
I think you misread the article. They refer to minorities and women's TV PROGRAMMING being killed off, thus the jobs related to the channels and programming being affected.

Not jobs at Cable TV service companies.


David
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reply to jvanbrecht
said by jvanbrecht:

My car payment is close to $800....

Man your car is more expensive than 2 of the payments on my pre-owned vehicles. I barely hit 2/3rds of that.

desarollo

join:2011-10-01
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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

I'm sorry, but your president is an absolute complete and total failure at just about everything. When we finally recover from this protracted depression, have more people employed again, get the national debt under control (I'm even being generous by not listing other problems that this idiot caused or exacerbated), then you can lecture me about politics.

I'd buy that he's a failure if the Republican Congress didn't impede everything he tried to do. When those SOB's in Congress hold up unemployment benefits so the wealthy can have tax cuts, something is terribly, terribly wrong with the moral compass on conservatives.

All I hear is bitching about the debt, but no one bitched when the majority of the debt was run up under Republicans.

Finally, lest we forget what flavor the president was when the bubble was inflating? The economy was destroyed on your team's watch and you have the nerve to bitch that it isn't being fixed quickly enough all the while conservatives stand in the way?

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Just think if the media didnt drive you guys so far apart, you might be able to work together and make the whole world a better place.

Of course unity is not what politicians want, because then we might actually do something about the fact they work against us.


KrK
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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

When we finally recover from this protracted depression, have more people employed again, get the national debt under control

You'd have to get rid of the vast majority of Republicans for these things ever to happen.
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whattacrock

@qwest.net
reply to pnh102
"...destroying enormous value for the highly diverse U.S. population and especially the smallest minority groups"

That is a joke -- the networks that people do not choose, will simply have to go away and make another way to get to the masses. For example, Reading Rainbow was erased by budget cuts to PBS, but they have remade themselves with an iPad app.

The customer doesn't need to be paying for networks that they aren't watching. The way I see it, is that most of the content these days on your 500 channels is re-runs or reality, which you can only watch so many times. These new networks and shows that are funded, are usually pretty crappy, and I don't want to pay for them anymore, which is one reason I dropped cable 10 years ago or so.

It's almost like tv networks are ran by politicians, with the attitude to bail out or keep producing crap content that the majority of folks don't really want to keep seeing. When TV finally goes ala carte, then all the non-essential networks will fall away and become streaming sites or Youtube channels...where they belong anyways.


Rangersfan

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reply to ArrayList
said by ArrayList:

is $150-250 an acceptable price for cable tv these days? yikes?!

No, not at all. The average pay TV bill is now $86.

»www.multichannel.com/article/482···nth_.php


Rangersfan

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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

My last car payment was $300 a month. My last cable bill with the TV included was $170 a month. To me, "car payment territory" is $200 a month and higher.

You were paying $170 just for pay TV? My goodness, what TV service did you have?


pnh102
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said by Rangersfan :

You were paying $170 just for pay TV? My goodness, what TV service did you have?

TV and Internet. I had a DVR box and HD too.

I'm a stickler for HD. If it isn't in HD I am not going to pay to watch it.
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Redlight
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join:2001-12-01
Bridgeport, OH
reply to pnh102
I too could care less who gets impacted. Why should I supplement channels I don't watch? I already give enough of my income to people that think they are "special" or discriminated against.

If we need or want these special channels then make them online only or offer a subscription package for these extra channels.

Out of 100+ channels I watch 25 at the most. The rest are garbage yet I still pay for them. If I want one channel in the next tier then I have to pay for all those channels in that tier. That sounds like a load of crap to me.


Rangerfan

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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

said by Rangersfan :

You were paying $170 just for pay TV? My goodness, what TV service did you have?

TV and Internet. I had a DVR box and HD too.

I'm a stickler for HD. If it isn't in HD I am not going to pay to watch it.

Ok. Then your comment was misleading. You weren't paying $170 for cable TV. You paying that amount for cable TV AND internet.

FastLearner

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reply to desarollo
Republican Congress?
There was a Democrat controlled House and Senate the first two years for Obama’s Presidency. Also the Democrats enjoyed a filibuster proof voting majority with the Democrat voting independents.

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reply to David
I pay 900 for 2 new cars... Not like im driving new infinitis any more but geezzzz ain't no way im paying more then 150 for cable or 450 for a car.
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aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to jvanbrecht
said by jvanbrecht:

What kind of car are you driving.. Just south of a car payment for me would have me practically owning a station after my 5 year loan is up.. okay so maybe not quite owning.. but I do not know too many cars that are in the $150 to $250 range, which I am guessing is the avg cable bill in most houses..

My car payment is close to $800....

In the last thirty years I've never had a car payment higher than $250. And I don't see that trend ending anytime soon for me. I would rather spend the money on something I enjoy instead of on a car. Just like I wish a la carte would arrive so I could dump ESPN.

ptbarnett

join:2002-09-30
Lewisville, TX
reply to desarollo
said by desarollo:

All I hear is bitching about the debt, but no one bitched when the majority of the debt was run up under Republicans.

Go back and look at the history of the federal budget deficit in the past 30 years. Compare how it changed from year to year (increased or decreased) to which party controlled the House of Representatives.

Once you have done that, come back and try to repeat what I quoted above with a straight face. If you can, you are a better liar than most.

I'll give you a hint: with only a few exceptions, the annual deficit declined when one party controlled the House, and increased (sometimes spectacularly) when the other party controlled the House.


FLATLINE

join:2007-02-27
Buffalo, NY
reply to Telco
This has nothing to do with politics. Quite frankly there are enough people in these so called Minorities to pay for said channels. If those channels fail its simply because they couldnt sustain themselves.

On the other end whats to stop them from just creating channels for the sake of creating them and forcing us to pay? Oh wait! Thats exactly what they have been doing.

john262

join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV
reply to pnh102
Amen brother.

And I don't want to pay extra for my cable TV bill either in order to support niche channels for minorities. If they want those channels let them pay for it.

john262

join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV
reply to desarollo
The economic crisis of 2008 had nothing to do with Bush. Actually, any president has very little influence over the economy. The Federal Reserve Chairman has more power in that area than the president does.


FLATLINE

join:2007-02-27
Buffalo, NY
Good point but I dont think hes talking about the economy but more the spending habits of our government. Bush was in large part responsible for the extreme accumulation of debt after taking office with a government holding very little debt. War is expensive. Do you have idea what those bombs and missiles cost they spread all over Afphganistan and Iraq?


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reply to pnh102
You should considering that right now Comcast pays for the groceries for these families. If they were to lose the jobs that you don't care about then it will come out of welfare.

This matter isn't as simple as it seems but yes we should get what "we" the consumer want. Of course we cannot ignore that because this is not a necessity and I am sure you will agree cable isn't. Then we shouldn't have to regulate the TV industry because that's the conservative thing to do.

I say let it be and have consumers speak with their wallets and let the blood bath continue. Eventually something will give way and when it does I can see the TV industry losing because at one point or another, bare necessities is more important than cable TV.

Recession? If you can afford a $250 cable bill... cry me a river.


CSRWRK

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reply to tmc8080
I work for one of the larger cable companies in the States and I think highly underestimate the amount of people in this country that are a slaves to their televisons and would never care to have internet video content avalible to them --some even turn it down when it's free with what they subscribe to ex: HBO/MAX GO, epix, watch espn-- let alone understand how to access the content itself. The current industry models and practices are old and outdated, but so is alot of the consumer base itself --and not just the old people-- so these models will continues thrive as long as the consumer base lets it, and from the looks of my day job it will be a very long time.


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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:

I'm sorry, but your president is an absolute complete and total failure at just about everything.

You mean our President? He is the President of the ENTIRE United States. Unless you want to go down the path of secession again, since THAT worked out so well the last time...
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