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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to MyDogHsFleas

Re: Where are the details?

Government should do a complete take over of the entire national infrastructure of broadband.

- All people and places fully wired with fiber, there is no red lining and people in the hills get it just as well as the people in the high rise.
- Any and all companies that want to use the service to reach a customer to deliver a service may lease the line to do so.
- Only requires 1 ultra capacity line to be ran to every location.
- Provides for competition which in turn brings innovation up and prices down.



footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO

1 recommendation

said by Skippy25:

Government should do a complete take over of the entire national infrastructure of broadband.

- All people and places fully wired with fiber, there is no red lining and people in the hills get it just as well as the people in the high rise.

Government should give me a free swimming pool, too. And a puppy. I want a puppy.
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Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty - Ronald Reagan


firephoto
We the people
Premium
join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA

said by footballdude:

said by Skippy25:

Government should do a complete take over of the entire national infrastructure of broadband.

- All people and places fully wired with fiber, there is no red lining and people in the hills get it just as well as the people in the high rise.

Government should give me a free swimming pool, too. And a puppy. I want a puppy.

Maybe the government should completely get out of the internet too, no regulation, no rules, make sure it is 100% private owned and private controled in the United States, make sure every company can have it's own rules and allow or disallow any data they choose from any source they choose. Eliminate any interference from the Government with things concerning monopolies or manipulations of markets. Let private business thrive on their freedom from the government.
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Eddy120876

join:2009-02-16
Bronx, NY
reply to Skippy25

Thats how countries like Korea,Japan and France work and look how great their speeds are compare to us the "free market lover" of the US who have a crappy internet at #14 ...sad


Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to footballdude

When those things become as important to the economic and welfare of the US as the internet has I will be advocating for those as well. But until then, you and your silly little snipes are on your own.



HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
reply to firephoto

said by firephoto:

said by footballdude:

said by Skippy25:

Government should do a complete take over of the entire national infrastructure of broadband.

- All people and places fully wired with fiber, there is no red lining and people in the hills get it just as well as the people in the high rise.

Government should give me a free swimming pool, too. And a puppy. I want a puppy.

Maybe the government should completely get out of the internet too, no regulation, no rules, make sure it is 100% private owned and private controled in the United States, make sure every company can have it's own rules and allow or disallow any data they choose from any source they choose. Eliminate any interference from the Government with things concerning monopolies or manipulations of markets. Let private business thrive on their freedom from the government.

Because trusting corporations is a good thing? As if we really need more debate on privacy and such...no thank you. There is no freedom in anything privately owned.
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elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
reply to Skippy25

imo your close the fed govt should take it over THEN turn the infrastructure over to the USPS it might make them relevant again
then run the whole thing like Utopia in UT


openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to Skippy25

said by Skippy25:

Government should do a complete take over of the entire national infrastructure of broadband.

Paid for by an individual mandate tax?

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Sure, divert some of the taxes we currently have to it or create a whole new tax for it. It IS the important to the US.


axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
reply to Skippy25

Government taking property is a bad idea. There's have to be some sort of fair court ruling, where is that going to come from?


MyDogHsFleas
Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:5
Reviews:
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reply to elios

said by elios:

imo your close the fed govt should take it over THEN turn the infrastructure over to the USPS it might make them relevant again
then run the whole thing like Utopia in UT

Yeah that's the ticket. Other candidates: the DMV, the IRS, or TSA. TSA's actually a great example of be careful what you wish for. Do you remember after 9/11 when everyone was, like, No, we can't trust the airports and airlines to contract out airport security? The government can do a MUCH better job. That was then, now see what you got, many billions of taxpayer dollars later for what was actually free to the taxpayers then. Is airport security actually better now? Would federal-government-run broadband be better? It's something to think about.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to Skippy25

Sigh. Shore up existing taxes and reduce the excess yes, but do NOT levy additional taxes.



elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

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reply to MyDogHsFleas

said by MyDogHsFleas:

said by elios:

imo your close the fed govt should take it over THEN turn the infrastructure over to the USPS it might make them relevant again
then run the whole thing like Utopia in UT

Yeah that's the ticket. Other candidates: the DMV, the IRS, or TSA. TSA's actually a great example of be careful what you wish for. Do you remember after 9/11 when everyone was, like, No, we can't trust the airports and airlines to contract out airport security? The government can do a MUCH better job. That was then, now see what you got, many billions of taxpayer dollars later for what was actually free to the taxpayers then. Is airport security actually better now? Would federal-government-run broadband be better? It's something to think about.

you DO know the USPS takes almost 0 tax money from the fed right?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta···_Service
thats the point of giving the USPS control
since they run off there own income and internet service imo is a logical extension of the mail it makes sense

TSA is fed funded the USPS is not
and it would be last mile only and the govt wouldnt be selling it directly it would be set up like Utopia were any ISP can sell service over the net work

also
"The Post Office Department owned and operated the first public telegraph lines in the United States, starting in 1844 from Washington to Baltimore, and eventually extending to New York, Boston, Buffalo, and Philadelphia. In 1847 the telegraph system was privatized, except for a period during World War I, when it was used to accelerate the delivery of letters arriving at night."
from the wiki
again putting the USPS in charge of all last mile data would not be with out line with what the USPS does any way

MyDogHsFleas
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join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:5
Reviews:
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Ooohhh that's even better. The Post Office? Been to one lately? Yeah, there's a model of customer service and efficiency.

Also from the very wikipedia article you referenced:

The USPS has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. However, it does receive tens to hundreds of millions per year in "implicit subsidies", such as breaks on property tax, vehicle registration, and sales tax, in addition to subsidized government loans.



elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

said by MyDogHsFleas:

Ooohhh that's even better. The Post Office? Been to one lately? Yeah, there's a model of customer service and efficiency.

Also from the very wikipedia article you referenced:

The USPS has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. However, it does receive tens to hundreds of millions per year in "implicit subsidies", such as breaks on property tax, vehicle registration, and sales tax, in addition to subsidized government loans.

sounds lot like the deal just about any major player gets any more whats your point

ATT and VZN get BILLIONS in tax breaks every year compared the USPS "tens to hundreds of millions per year"
id rather my taxes go to building better internet in the US then bailing out banks and GM

MyDogHsFleas
Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:5

What "billions in tax breaks"?