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damir52
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Best ADSL2+ Filter

As thread name says, what would be the best ADSL2+ filter and where to buy in Ontario?

My modem output:
DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A

Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / CNXT

Thanks,
damir
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damir52
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any1?


rockstead

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Every DSL provider I see recommends a Speedtouch, I already have a router so I purchased the Speedtouch 516v16 for $25 off of kijiji, there are a lot of them on the used market to buy, ISP's will typically sell it for $75.

In my case replacing my TP-link with the recommended Speedtouch fixed the issue preventing Teksavvy from moving me to a better profile.



damir52
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O_o


rockstead

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Sorry I missed the filter part...oopsy.



damir52
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No problem



Mike2009

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Ottawa, ON
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reply to damir52

I've never had any issues with the various brands I've used.



damir52
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Which ADSL2+ Filter you use if you don't mind sharing? Where to buy ?

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balur

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reply to damir52

I doubt you'll find any specific filter reviews. It's such a minor thing that most people haven't put much research into it.

Personally I used whatever the Futureshop no name brand was for years.

Where I worked we just had a box and shipped them out as they were needed. We rarely came across cases of bad filters, and those we did we didn't put any effort in to tracking them, so unfortunately can't give you any advice.



Guspaz
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reply to damir52

Corning. Dunno where to buy.



damir52
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said by Guspaz:

Corning. Dunno where to buy.

Which model exactly if you don't mind telling me.

Thanks
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Semaphore
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'Corning POTS splitter'. There's also one by Wilcom that's quite good but not the same quality IMHO as Corning.... you should be able to buy one from your ISP... but you're not planning on filtering your *DSL* line right ? Regular DSL filters have nothing to do with the signal your Modem sees, only the freq's NOT seen by the telephone side, and possibly the noise the modem may see from a malfunctioning telephone/jack.


epsilon3

join:2008-03-29
canada

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Click for full size
I have an available Corning POTS splitter. You can have it for $10

I have other 2-3 different type of DSL filters only OR filter - splitters ($5 each)


damir52
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I will get it



damir52
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Thank you epsilon3 , money sent, waiting for shipment

Thanks all for info and help.

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Guspaz
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It shold be noted that, while a POTS splitter that has a full set of RJ-11 jacks (like the Corning one does) can be used in place of a regular splitter, it's meant to be installed where your telephone line enters your house/apartment and wired directly into your phone line.
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damir52
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I live in apartment, so here?:



Tnx
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Guspaz
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That's your demarc... The setup you show is only valid if you have connected a telephone to that filter, and the DSL modem is plugged into some other jack.
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epsilon3

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it should be installed as in the dgass picture here below, right?

»Anyone have a photo of the Telecon POTS filter/splitter?

...or, totally replacing the demark



Guspaz
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It can be, if used as a whole-house (or whole-apartment) filter. There are three sets of connections on the filter, and each one can be connected either via the bare wires (on the left side) or the phone jack (on the right side).

The way he's wired it up is:

Line (input from Bell): directly wired
Modem (output to modem): RJ-11 jack
Phone (output to home phone wiring): RJ-11 jack
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Semaphore
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reply to damir52

The idea of a POTS is to fillter OUT ALL the frequencies that DSL would use from going DOWN the lines on the 'Telephone' side of the Splitter. This means you MAXIMIZE the DSL frequencies going down the line to the Modem.
Signals on wires are like water in a hose - they will all come to the same level even if there's no 'reason' (e.g. not telephone on the end) to do so.
It's the same reason why the number of jacks in the house affects the overall DSL signal even when they are not connected to telephones.
As Guspaz says you can do the same thing with a DSL filter as you can with a POTS if you know how.

Never filter the line going to the DSL modem.

Either use the POTS Splitter (preferred) OR disconnect every Line not in use and move the modem as close as possible to the demarc to minimize the loss on the cable run to the Modem's DSL port and then you must Filter only the jacks going to telephones and do it AT the jack on the wall if you don't use a POTS.



damir52
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reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

That's your demarc... The setup you show is only valid if you have connected a telephone to that filter, and the DSL modem is plugged into some other jack.

so, i should install this filter\splitter at demarc on the picture and run cable to my modem ?

Do you maybe have any link that explains fully how this should be setuped \ used properly

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Guspaz
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If it's a POTS splitter, plug the modem into the MODEM jack, and the telephone (or telephone line) into the PHONE jack.

If it's a regular splitter, place the regular splitters between every telephone device (handset, fax, alarm, satellite terminal, etc) and the phone jack, and do not put any filter between the DSL modem and the phone jack.
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damir52
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Its this one i am getting:



Thanks Guspaz
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Mike2009

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Didn't Bell already install one like that for you? If you're on ADSL2+, they should have.



damir52
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I am not using Bell, i am using Fibernetics, 10mbit.
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damir52
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Hello all,

My splitter just arrived, epsilon3

On the same jack (at this jack i am getting the best sync, full speed) i have connected this splitter, phone and dsl modem.

It looks like:
»www.urimage.net/image/xhL

Short cable from Wall jack to LINE IN jack on splitter, from Home phone to PHONE JACK on splitter, and DSL modem to DSL modem jack in splitter , is this correct way of doing it?

Speedtest:


Modem stats:

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.003 / 10.239
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0,00 / 0,00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,5 / 22,5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 19,5 / 35,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 12,0 / 14,0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / CNXT

Is this acceptable setup \ output \ stats?

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HiVolt
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looks good, except you should have a 12meg sync to get your 10meg speeds. inquire with TekSavvy.



damir52
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Why Teksavvy?:D



Guspaz
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said by HiVolt:

looks good, except you should have a 12meg sync to get your 10meg speeds. inquire with TekSavvy.

RTFP; he's a Fibernetics colocated DSLAM customer, not a TekSavvy customer.
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