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HiVolt
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Re: [Serious] Scarborough block party turns violent

said by donoreo:

Someone has to say "gang violence".

Dude. I made a "wrong turn" onto that street (Danzig) once while cycling. Let me tell you, it was NOT pretty, and I hightailed it out of there quick. Its mostly townhouses and it was just PACKED with 'hoods sitting in front on lawn chairs, drinking alcohol and who knows what else...

I also listen to the 43 division on a regular basis, and that area is known for gang & drug activity. They have undercover cops there all the time.
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Looking at Google Maps, so it's the "Projects", a long fence, and then single family housing.

No thanks, the house has to be worth nothing.



Gone
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said by HiVolt:

Dude. I made a "wrong turn" onto that street (Danzig) once while cycling. Let me tell you, it was NOT pretty, and I hightailed it out of there quick. Its mostly townhouses and it was just PACKED with 'hoods sitting in front on lawn chairs, drinking alcohol and who knows what else...

Sounds just like any other day in Buffalo! Haha.


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vue666
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I thought it was a block party... Where I live our annual block party for my street would easily have that many...



HiVolt
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A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.



donoreo
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said by HiVolt:

A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.

But then they would all feel harassed.


HiVolt
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said by donoreo:

said by HiVolt:

A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.

But then they would all feel harassed.

And profiled... Damn right. But maybe 20+ people wouldn't have been shot.


donoreo
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said by HiVolt:

said by donoreo:

said by HiVolt:

A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.

But then they would all feel harassed.

And profiled... Damn right. But maybe 20+ people wouldn't have been shot.

Aside from the kids, it would have been better if they had all killed each other.
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loosedobbs

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said by HiVolt:

A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.

Do they need a permit to have such event?
And the 43 Div is not that far. May be a km away.


HiVolt
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said by loosedobbs:

said by HiVolt:

A block party in a gang and thug infested neighbourhood is a terrible idea... There should have been police presence there to begin with.

Do they need a permit to have such event?
And the 43 Div is not that far. May be a km away.

I dunno... I think you need permits for public spaces like parks and stuff, but if people are having BBQ's and stuff on their front yards i dont think you can even enforce any sort of bylaws...

And yeah, the 43 Division is pretty close around on Lawrence & Manse Road. Cops got there very quickly after the initial gunshot dispatch went out.
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peterboro
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said by HiVolt:

Dude. I made a "wrong turn" onto that street (Danzig) once while cycling. Let me tell you, it was NOT pretty, and I hightailed it out of there quick. Its mostly townhouses and it was just PACKED with 'hoods sitting in front on lawn chairs, drinking alcohol and who knows what else...

I've been to most Toronto "projects" and they don't compare to the ones I went into in California. I would be shot for wearing the wrong colours and where there are spotters on the rooftops with walkie talkies and they stop your vehicle and confirm you are to be in the area with a local and then follow you in.


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said by Gone:

Sounds just like any other day in Buffalo! Haha.

Oy - been there, done that, and met a Buffalo cop who was wondering what we were doing there. When I explained that the person from Fort Erie who I was staying with had a "bad sense of direction" (he was smashed) and asked for directions to get out of there, they were pretty cool about it and told me how to get back to Canada.

I'm sure there will be those crying that the police should have known something was going to happen and been there to stop it, but it also falls on those who live in the area and know the people involved to either stop it before it starts by defusing the situation, calling the police early, or getting out of dodge before it starts.
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HiVolt
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said by peterboro:

I've been to most Toronto "projects" and they don't compare to the ones I went into in California. I would be shot for wearing the wrong colours and where there are spotters on the rooftops with walkie talkies and they stop your vehicle and confirm you are to be in the area with a local and then follow you in.

I'm sure, its hardcore over there. But this is Canada, and shit like this is scary and shouldnt be here.
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donoreo
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said by Kardinal:

I'm sure there will be those crying that the police should have known something was going to happen and been there to stop it, but it also falls on those who live in the area and know the people involved to either stop it before it starts by defusing the situation, calling the police early, or getting out of dodge before it starts.

Part of the problem is probably that most of the people that live there consider the police the enemy.
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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

I'm sure, its hardcore over there. But this is Canada, and shit like this is scary and shouldnt be here.

And thus I live in Peterborough until the low-lifes move here and I'll head further north.


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said by donoreo:

Part of the problem is probably that most of the people that live there consider the police the enemy.

Yup, but that won't stop the blame game of "the police should have done something" because it's not like the locals are going to take responsibility for the actions of the locals.
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donoreo
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said by Kardinal:

said by donoreo:

Part of the problem is probably that most of the people that live there consider the police the enemy.

Yup, but that won't stop the blame game of "the police should have done something" because it's not like the locals are going to take responsibility for the actions of the locals.

I am saying that those outside will be asking the question but to those that live there it never entered their minds.
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Gone
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said by Kardinal:

Oy - been there, done that, and met a Buffalo cop who was wondering what we were doing there. When I explained that the person from Fort Erie who I was staying with had a "bad sense of direction" (he was smashed) and asked for directions to get out of there, they were pretty cool about it and told me how to get back to Canada.

I was in the north-end of Buffalo yesterday afternoon during what I will assume is their rush hour. North Buffalo, comparatively speaking, is quite nice compared to most other areas of the city and not somewhere where you feel like you're going to be shot - you need to get to the east side of Main Street and onto Delevan for that, haha. Still, I saw more cop cars racing up and down the streets with lights flashing in the half hour period I was there than I would see in an entire month in St. Catharines.

Buffalo, for what it's worth, is a city of two worlds. For all intents and purposes, it's a segregated city. I hate to sound this way, but in the areas where the white people live it's a fantastic friendly city that you'll want to come back to. If you get onto the east side, where the black people live, it's a scary shithole that you'll wish you never visited.


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said by Gone:

Buffalo, for what it's worth, is a city of two worlds. For all intents and purposes, it's a segregated city. I hate to sound this way, but in the areas where the white people live it's a fantastic friendly city that you'll want to come back to. If you get onto the east side, where the black people live, it's a scary shithole that you'll wish you never visited.

I observed almost same with my recent visit to Boston, Philly, Washington DC, NY, NJ.

Its like two different worlds. Absolutely Marvelous, Picturesque outside cities...especially in PA and city life (ghetto).

Then its again two worlds in once you enter cities.


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said by peterboro:

said by HiVolt:

Dude. I made a "wrong turn" onto that street (Danzig) once while cycling. Let me tell you, it was NOT pretty, and I hightailed it out of there quick. Its mostly townhouses and it was just PACKED with 'hoods sitting in front on lawn chairs, drinking alcohol and who knows what else...

I've been to most Toronto "projects" and they don't compare to the ones I went into in California. I would be shot for wearing the wrong colours and where there are spotters on the rooftops with walkie talkies and they stop your vehicle and confirm you are to be in the area with a local and then follow you in.

Frig thats just like the movie I recently saw with Denzel Washington about the first day on the job for a rookie cop. Great movie by the way. For street cruising, never forget the day I drove down a street in New Haven (perhaps Chapel?). Garbage cans acting as giant candles the whole bit. Windows rolled up tight, scared sheetless.
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