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vue666
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Re: [Serious] Scarborough block party turns violent

said by DKS:

If the election promise is ethically bankrupt in the beginning...

Bankrupt how? And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...


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said by vue666:

said by DKS:

If the election promise is ethically bankrupt in the beginning...

Bankrupt how? And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

The point is never to get criminals to register their guns. That's is a silly, nonsensical argument. The point to to have knowledge of weapons and to have some idea of their "trail".
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said by vue666:

Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So we should just legalize everything that is banned, since the bans aren't working? I don't follow your logic.
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vue666
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said by DKS:

said by vue666:

said by DKS:

If the election promise is ethically bankrupt in the beginning...

Bankrupt how? And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

The point is never to get criminals to register their guns. That's is a silly, nonsensical argument. The point to to have knowledge of weapons and to have some idea of their "trail".

And the guns criminals use will have this trail? I think not. Most are from illegal entry into Canada and those that are stolen domestically will have their serial numbers filed off...


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said by Kardinal:

said by vue666:

Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So we should just legalize everything that is banned, since the bans aren't working? I don't follow your logic.

SO should I then deduce you believe prohibition worked? That our present marijuana laws are adequate? OR would you prefer to live in a police state...

To live in a free and democratic society there will always be risks. Empowering the government to control our lives is not a good idea...

It is perplexing to believe criminals who do not uphold the law will obey gun laws when they commit crimes..

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said by vue666:

said by Kardinal:

said by vue666:

Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So we should just legalize everything that is banned, since the bans aren't working? I don't follow your logic.

SO should I then deduce you believe prohibition worked? That our present marijuana laws are adequate? OR would you prefer to live in a police state...

If you are "deducing" that from my questioning your post, that's some more logic I'm not following.....or it's just a diversion/deflection/tangent.....
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Do we not learn from history that simply banning something does not make the problem go away.

The Volstead Act did not make the American public's desire to consume alcohol go away, it's not working with drugs and it will not work with guns. All it does is provide a very lucrative market for criminals...

Taking away a pencil from someone who can not spell does not resolve the spelling problem... We need to find out why people want to get stoned, drunk and shoot each other. Then and only then we will have fixed the problem...


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said by vue666:

said by DKS:

If the election promise is ethically bankrupt in the beginning...

Bankrupt how? And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So by that logic we should legalize pot, cocaine, heroine, bath salts, fully automatic weapons? Let us stop registering cars too.Are you pro life Ken? If so, then rethink wanting to change abortion laws too.
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Pretty selective in your reading of my posts... I said identify why people want to do drugs, engage in criminal acts, drink excessively then and only then will you lick the problem....

We have severe economic, social problems in our society that no one wants to address...

AND please stop attempting to hijack these threads into a Robert vs Ken debate... The issue is too complex and too serious for that type of hijinx...


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said by Robert:

said by vue666:

said by DKS:

If the election promise is ethically bankrupt in the beginning...

Bankrupt how? And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So by that logic we should legalize pot, cocaine, heroine, bath salts, fully automatic weapons? Let us stop registering cars too.Are you pro life Ken? If so, then rethink wanting to change abortion laws too.

So kindly enlighten me how would've the long gun registry adverted this incident?


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said by vue666:

So kindly enlighten me how would've the long gun registry adverted this incident?

Big shock, Ken deflected with his own question instead of answering mine.

I think that semi automatics should be banned, not merely registered. Two separate things Ken.
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said by Robert:
I think that semi automatics should be banned, not merely registered. Two separate things Ken.

Wow big shock. I asked you how would have the long gun registry averted this task... AND you reply about banning semi automatics...


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said by Robert:

said by vue666:

And I'll ask once more...Do you really believe criminals will register their guns? Banning something does not work (prohibition, drugs, etc)...

So by that logic we should legalize pot, cocaine, heroine, bath salts, fully automatic weapons? Let us stop registering cars too.Are you pro life Ken? If so, then rethink wanting to change abortion laws too.

said by vue666:

said by Robert:
I think that semi automatics should be banned, not merely registered. Two separate things Ken.

Wow big shock. I asked you how would have the long gun registry averted this task... AND you reply about banning semi automatics...

Statement: bans don't work
Question: shall we legalize all sorts of things if bans don't work? Or what?
Reply: Would long gun registry have done anything?

Most of us would see a logic fail here, as the reply has nothing to do with the question asked about the initial statement. In short, you deflect a question by going off on a tangent to avoid answering, and then denigrate for not answering your tangent and attempting to stay on topic? Living in a glass house, throwing stones, and all that.

What do you think should be done, if your opinion is that bans don't work?
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