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Re: Wind Mobile wants CRTC hearing over Telus ownership A number of public utilities are foreign owned in a number of countries. Why pre-tell are cellular companies different. If our countries ever have a breakdown you can nationalize the company. Germany lost a lot of property holdings in North America because of World War I. Moreover, there isn't one company delivering power in the community, there are four or five. The interest seems less compelling.
You guys are paying some of the highest rates I know. Our rates aren't low and you make ATT look like a bargain basement. "MetroPCS Canada" would shake up your industry (until you realized the gaps in their coverage).
NAFTA was an agreement between our nations that committed to the principle of mutual trust of the other. Perhaps a bigger testament to it is the thousands of miles of unfortified border. While 9/11 fubbed it up somewhat, consider:
»www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazi···town.asp
Look at your deal with your telco. Most Canadians I know pay roaming when they are 70kms from their house. You pay three year contracts for your phones and get really hammered when you cross the border.
The Canadian culture exception has been used as a non-tariff barrier. There is a limit on US television on your network to protect Canadian culture, but consider some of these Canadian produced programs that don't quality:
*House (supposedly set in New Jersey);
*Andromeda;
*Battlestar Galactica;
*Highlander;
*MacGyver (later episodes);
*Police Academy - The Series (supposedly set in California);
*Stargate SG1, Universe, and Atlantis;
*21 Jump Street;
*The Commish (filed in supposedly set in New Jersey);
*NYPD Blue (supposedly set in NYC);
*Silk Stockings (supposedly set in Palm Beach);
*Eureka;
*Human Target;
*Smallville (supposedly set in Kansas);
*F/X
My point is not that there is no such thing as true Canadian culture -- there is. My point is that the justification is often a pretextual and used to protect incumbent interests at the expense of the consumer. |
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| said by stufried:My point is not that there is no such thing as true Canadian culture -- there is. My point is that the justification is often a pretextual and used to protect incumbent interests at the expense of the consumer.
The unfortunate phenomenon you're referring to is regulatory capture, I'd have no problem with US players settng up shop here, as long as their Canadian operations are not subject to the Patriot Act and such.
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| If I thought I could get German style privacy protection, I'd switch to TMobile in a New York minute. I absolutely presumed that the US players had to play by Canadian rules. |
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| said by stufried:If I thought I could get German style privacy protection, I'd switch to TMobile in a New York minute. I absolutely presumed that the US players had to play by Canadian rules.
Assuming they set up a Canadian operation, I'd assume they would, but I don't know how that would interact with their own obligations to the Patriot Act and with our cross border cooperation arrangements.
I'd want to investigate that's for sure.
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| said by El Quintron:Assuming they set up a Canadian operation, I'd assume they would, but I don't know how that would interact with their own obligations to the Patriot Act and with our cross border cooperation arrangements.
I'd want to investigate that's for sure.
There would be nothing to investigate. US law applies to us companies, *even* if they are only partially owned by Americans. Patriot Act applies, regardless of anything else.
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| said by easy peasey :There would be nothing to investigate. US law applies to us companies, *even* if they are only partially owned by Americans. Patriot Act applies, regardless of anything else.
You can check priv coms site for this and more info.
I'm not disputing your point, in fact what you just said there is what concerns me about, say, subbing to Verizon, or T. Mobile.
Where it may get hairy for these companies, is if all the gear is located in Canada, then which law takes precedence. Obviously we're talking theoreticals here.
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| said by El Quintron:said by easy peasey :There would be nothing to investigate. US law applies to us companies, *even* if they are only partially owned by Americans. Patriot Act applies, regardless of anything else.
You can check priv coms site for this and more info.
I'm not disputing your point, in fact what you just said there is what concerns me about, say, subbing to Verizon, or T. Mobile. Where it may get hairy for these companies, is if all the gear is located in Canada, then which law takes precedence. Obviously we're talking theoreticals here. Answer: Patriot Act.
This and more can be found on Priv Com.
You know... there is a reason why BC, PEI and some other prov's ended contracts with partially owned, or fully owned, american data houses with server farms in Canada. |
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said by stufried:.... but consider some of these Canadian produced programs that don't quality:
*House (supposedly set in New Jersey);
The predominant thing about House is that the creator/executive producer, David Shore, is Canadian. Prior to becoming a writer, Shore was a partner in a law firm in London, Ontario, where he practiced corporate and municipal law.
'House' was not filmed in Canada. |
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said by easy peasey :Answer: Patriot Act.
Didn't I say that upthread?
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| said by El Quintron:said by easy peasey :Answer: Patriot Act.
Didn't I say that upthread? Nope.
You posed a question, as shown here:
said by El Quintron:Where it may get hairy for these companies, is if all the gear is located in Canada, then which law takes precedence. Obviously we're talking theoreticals here.
Nothing "theoretical", and nothing "hairy", nothing "hypothetical".
Patriot Act take precedence. |
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Re: Wind Mobile wants CRTC hearing over Telus ownership said by stufried:*House (supposedly set in New Jersey);
From Wikipedia:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(TV_series)
The pilot episode was filmed in Canada; primary photography for all subsequent episodes has been shot on the Fox lot in Century City.[35] Bryan Singer chose the hospital near his hometown, West Windsor, New Jersey, as the show's fictional setting.[12] Princeton University's Frist Campus Center[a] is the source of the aerial views of Princeton‑Plainsboro Teaching Hospital seen in the series.[67] Some filming took place at the University of Southern California for the season three episode "Half-Wit", which guest-starred Dave Matthews and Kurtwood Smith.[68] Part of House's sixth season was filmed at the abandoned Greystone Park Psychiatric Hospital, in Parsippany-Troy Hills, New Jersey, as the fictional Mayfield Psychiatric Hospital.[69]
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