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Name Game
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Re: Secret Security Questions Are a Joke

If they were asked, the perpetrator could not have answered them.. it would have end there...they were not weak..what gave you that opinion ? Do you know the questions he had ?

Apple is still the problem..not the questions..Apple does not have a clue how to secure accounts or how to implement security.

»news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57424···estions/

»support.apple.com/kb/HT5312?viewlocale=en_US

»discussions.apple.com/thread/405···tstart=0
56 min ago...
»discussions.apple.com/message/19···19221027

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JALevinworth

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said by Name Game:

If they were asked, the perpetrator could not have answered them.. it would have end there...they were not weak..what gave you that opinion ? Do you know the questions he had ?

I never said the questions Apple didn't ask could or couldn't have been answered. I am not talking about Apple at all.

Again, this thread isn't about Apple and Matt, this thread is an discussion about how week security questions are - Not Matt's nor Apples. Check the title (I am honestly questioning you didn't make a wrong turn to this thread from the Apple/Matt one).


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The questions are secure enough..they are not a wasted security step..if anything you should be calling them second, third and even in some cases fourth passwords. Is that what you wanted to hear ?

And this is about Apple since they just bypassed that whole process and gave up the farm for Mat. I call blogs and posting like the OP found nothing but copycat blog.

Apple, like Microsoft when they started, cared bugger all for Security and so now at this midnight hour they start to put safe guard in place and it is too late.. it is not working, it is confessing their users and owners of their products...and their is more problems with even the owners getting locked out of their own account as they play the catch up game that Apple is playing. I read the Title..it is the same stupid title used by the person who blogged the stuff and nothing to do with antdude.
It is a weak title this week for the info at the link.

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Interesting to note one of the other people at the link antdude posted claimed..

by Cinder6 (894572) on Thursday August 09, @12:05PM (#40932671)
Hell I did it with Blizzard for what, $30 and I got a plush toy.

This has always bothered me. My Blizzard and SWTOR accounts have much stronger authentication (from a user perspective; not sure about the underlying technical security measures) schemes than my bank account. My bank only allows a maximum of 14 characters in a password and severely limits you on what special characters you can use. They also have no form of secondary authentication, such as Blizzard's Battle.net Authenticator. Finally, their security questions are a joke, all along the lines of those mentioned in TFS--"What is your mother's maiden name" and the like.

and Blizzard was just hacked...so it is never safe out there..no matter what steps a user takes..

»Blizzard Says Battle.Net Has Been Hacked
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JALevinworth

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said by Name Game:

The questions are secure enough..they are not a wasted security step..if anything you should be calling them second, third and even in some cases fourth passwords. Is that what you wanted to hear ?

Once again, I'm totally at a loss where you're coming from concerning my words and now my thoughts. But ok, I'll play along..... No, that's not what I wanted to hear. I guess if I wanted to hear anything it would have been something acknowledging that you didn't realize you weren't in the Apple/Matt thread and therefore didn't realize you were crapping antdude's thread and a decent conversation on the general topic of password questions that was in progress. I say that only because you asked.

said by Name Game:

And this is about Apple since they just bypassed that whole process and gave up the farm for Mat. I call blogs and posting like the OP found nothing but copycat blog.
[snip]
I read the Title..it is the same stupid title used by the person who blogged the stuff and nothing to do with antdude.
It is a weak title this week for the info at the link.

*Sigh* - I am editing out what I would have said to minimize my reply here in respect to the thread, the OP, and the other posters.

Honestly, Name Game. Your replies to me confused me not only here but previously (even sans edits). They attribute words and thoughts to me I don't understand how you got. I even questioned that you didn't have me confused with someone else. Adding to that the additional postings you added which are a follow up the Apple/Matt thing (google 2-step) and not about the topic here but seemed to me were intended for that topic thread. My only explanation was thinking you were making an honest mistake. I understand now your intent is clearly to be here.

I hope you'll allow the conversation about how password questions in general are weak to continue at this point.

-Jim


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Don't be silly..you can talk about what you wish..I posted about what was found in the link..don't know if you read all the comments in that link..but I will tell you..the person who started that discussion at that link..then associating it even remotely with Mat made the same mistakes others have by not reading his own account of exactly what really happened and have no understanding on Apple's security questions. Mat has even made that clear on his twitter. What they have read is other bloggers accounts of what they think happened.
»twitter.com/mat

The link contained this statement "But even if Apple had required the hackers to answer the questions, it's very likely that the hackers would have been able to find the right answers."
To that I say bullshit again.

The rest of the stuff you just posted..I have no idea what you are talking about..but it seems you do..so have a great day
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BTW this is the actual full article that blogger cut and pasted without the link posted at slashdot forum thingie...

»www.theatlantic.com/technology/a···/260835/

Rosen article not only was about Mat..she tried to spin it into something that had nothing to do with the event.
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