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Rob
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reply to Rob

Re: Falling Skies Returns Sunday

OK now I am even more confused. Is Manchester working with the aliens, or does he have an ulterior motive?


pb5k
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Last episode was pretty good. I liked some of the character developments and friction that occured.


As for the Manchester question, I don't think he's a collaborator or has any ulterior motives. In fact the real problem may be that he believes so strongly in his principles that he's dangerous. He honestly believes that the aliens will leave eventually, and that the best way to protect his people is to assert a strong civilian control over the military and not take any unnecessary risks. It's a respectable and honorable viewpoint, but completely incorrect in light of what viewers have seen through the eyes of the 2nd Mass.

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Snakeoil
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Agreed. The head in the sand approach that so many favor vs facing the problem head on.



Rook008
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reply to pb5k
Yeah, that basically sums it up.

But I think the military solution went a bit too far at the end of the episode. I think it would have been simpler (though less dramatic) to split the military from the civilian government, with Gen. Bressler calling the shots for the military and Manchester in charge of the civilian population. Bressler would still have to provide for the defense of the settlement, but could mount patrols and attack the enemy if the opportunity arose.

Pretty good episode. And Pope sitting down to a meal was hilarious.
Oddly, while there were no aliens in the episode, there was more tension than in episodes filled with them.

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Wily_One
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reply to Rob

said by Rob:

Is Manchester working with the aliens, or does he have an ulterior motive?

He's too enamored with the idea of being "the father of a new government" to be working with the aliens.  That guy has drank his own koolaid.

P.S. Do we really need spoiler tags anymore? If I miss an episode or don't watch right away, I just don't open the thread until I catch up...


Voxxjin
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I just watched it last night. I agree with Wily_one regarding manchester. The guy wants to be George Washington.

Though when I see the general, I can't stop thinking "Max Headroom".

I can't wait until next week to see if the meeting is truly a game changer.
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Rook008
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I can't stop thinking "Taggart" from Eureka.



Snakeoil
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reply to Rook008
I agree with the points you mention, a two pronged leadership.



Voxxjin
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I think it would be important to have a secure home base from which the non-fighters can live/rebuild. Have a defense force to protect them but in general, to lay low.

At the same time, they should have a 'field army'. One that will take the fight to the enemy. Strike away from Charleston so as to not draw extra aliens to the area.
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Wily_One
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The kid already told the harnessed girl about Charleston, so it's just a matter of time before he finds out that was a bad move.



Snakeoil
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Ya. I've been curious as to why she was "out in the wild". Are there harnessed kids that are with the rebels [still wearing harness]. She may have been one of them. Or maybe someone killed their skitter watchers, and they were free. Did they ever cover what happens to harness kids if their skitter controller was killed?
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Wily_One
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Wow, so we have to wait until 2013 to find out if the new aliens are friend or foe ?

Is it me or do the TV seasons make no sense any more. This is the kind of crap SciFi pulls.



Snakeoil
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I think they do the short "season" for 2 reasons.
1] To help keep costs down, or to allow a bigger nugdet per episode.
2]Easier to slip in between the "breaks" of the main networks seasons. So while the big 4 is showing reruns, you get to watch new shows on the alternate networks.
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SRFireside

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Also it's pretty much the "in" thing as just about all the networks are doing these truncated seasons and have been doing it for quite a few years. When was the last time you seen a season of more than 24 or 25 shows?



Rook008
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reply to Wily_One
I'd bet that the new aliens were enemies of the fish-heads, and turn into allies of the humans. They suggested as much when we saw the weapon the fish-heads were building was pointing skyward, probably to defend against the enemy they knew were coming.
That, and unless you're reading The Forever War, the bad guys always look like bad guys and the good guys always look like good guys. The new alien looked pretty friendly to me.


Pretty much everything on TV has a cliffhanger ending. I guess it's something to get people to watch when the show eventually starts back up. I don't think anyone who watches TV likes it.
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Alpha Phoenix
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I think the same think. When they were at the weapon, when Tom asked why it was pointed towards the sky when the Fish Heads have already eradicated the Air Force, Ben responded that it's not for us.
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Wily_One
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reply to Rook008
The cliffhanger ending is not the issue - nothing new there. These wacky "seasons" make it so I never know when anything is on anymore. Falling Skies is ending right when other shows should be starting.

Thank goodness for DVRs.



Alpha Phoenix
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Agreed! I hate these partial seasons, then they come back months later and you don't remember what the hell happened before, and I hate these weeks/month long breaks between episodes. I just want them to air a complete season, start-finish consistently.

I actually have to have a list for all the shows I watch to keep track of when what is coming back. Thanks goodness for darcilicious See Profile!
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Rook008
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reply to Wily_One
I guess I'm used to it by now. Most of the shows I like are on cable TV where the seasons are between 10 and 13 episodes long. And they usually air straight through without much in the way of breaks, which I prefer to watching a show on a broadcast network which is interrupted for sports and awards shows and reruns.

Broadcast TV is where you'll likely find a season that is 20+ episodes long, and there's not that much there that I watch.

For instance, on Sunday night there were 6 shows I wanted to watch. None of them is a broadcast TV show.
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TwiztedZero
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reply to Rob

[Falling Skies] Rolly Polly Fish Heads.

OMGz I'm shellshocked! Falling Skies S02E10 "A More Perfect Union". Oh sheet, NEW alien in encounter suit! Good or Baddie? Yikes! I'll Take Alien Bovine Deserts For $100 Alex. And wow the helmet shape and big shoulders brings the Vorlon image into my brain. Hopes they're goodies with the rebel skitters, and yes that was definitely a "shit eating grin on the face of the alien boogie. . Can't wait for next episode! Death to the FishHeads! Meanwhiles I'm haunted by Hal's new bug symbiont that crawled into his ear. Good or bad omen, depends I guess on who's on the other end of it, RedEye had one but is this the same side's (rebel) bug?
> In other news TNT picked up Falling Skies for a 3rd season, production is underway. Debuts sometime in 2013 so I guess we're in for a wait.
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